Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:01 am Lol at Michelle attempting to convince Dom she wasn't scum up until the deadline when she had been mechanically outed like 3 phases prior.
I wanted to post something. Anything would be better than doing nothing 
Thank you for the game everyone, it was so full of events and i loved to play it. Is the truth. Your word for me is like i should be ashamed.
Don't.Dom wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:55 pmGIRLMichelle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:14 am"townfirmed themselves to eachother" ...Quin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:40 ami love your enthusiasm michelle, but the fact that dom and jack have townfirmed themselves to eachother is common knowledge at this point.
I had a visible impossibility to play last day being silenced. If you ever saw scum self silencing please let me know.
"townfirmed themselves to eachother" ...Quin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:40 ami love your enthusiasm michelle, but the fact that dom and jack have townfirmed themselves to eachother is common knowledge at this point.
Are you sheeping Quin? You wanted to hung me for sheepingJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:31 pmMostly cause Quin voted Juliets yesterday.
Dom wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:59 amnot sure ddl is playing by those rulesMichelle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:45 amThe daily blocking looks like a plot hole in a story. From what i knew a RBer cannot block the same player twice in a row. Do you really think that the SK is RBed?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:33 pmI’m concerned the sk is being blocked at a time they would probably be aiming for wolves.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:02 amdo you think the missing deaths would bring us infos? IJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 pmThe fact that we keep having one kill is really bad.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:08 pm SK should vote with town to lynch mafia today or else mafia will likely win.
got it. then Jack is right.
fixed quote and [VOTE: Spyrito] aubergineMichelle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:46 amI agree with this vote.TonyStarkPrime pos wrote:Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:44 am I think voting for sprityo is a fine way to spend the day.
The daily blocking looks like a plot hole in a story. From what i knew a RBer cannot block the same player twice in a row. Do you really think that the SK is RBed?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:33 pmI’m concerned the sk is being blocked at a time they would probably be aiming for wolves.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:02 amdo you think the missing deaths would bring us infos? IJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 pmThe fact that we keep having one kill is really bad.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:08 pm SK should vote with town to lynch mafia today or else mafia will likely win.
i have a tinfoil but i am not sure so is useless.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:15 amit seems you know who the SK is.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:02 amdo you think the missing deaths would bring us infos? IJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 pmThe fact that we keep having one kill is really bad.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:08 pm SK should vote with town to lynch mafia today or else mafia will likely win.
i never voted for myself
do you think the missing deaths would bring us infos? IJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 pmThe fact that we keep having one kill is really bad.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:08 pm SK should vote with town to lynch mafia today or else mafia will likely win.
Him being inactive also may be a trap, he can holster and wait the best moment.
I kinda have rl too, sorry i had to sleep and work.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:08 amI think there's a chance that you killed him and planned to ask my thoughts on this today.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:55 pmWhat do you think about this today Owner?Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:14 pm I know you guys died already. it was a very sad affair, but your second self is still alive so I begin to doubt it all again.
Other than that, you waiting to post when half the thread is filled with scum seems like you don't have the same priorities as town.Spoiler: show
What do you think about this today Owner?Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:14 pm I know you guys died already. it was a very sad affair, but your second self is still alive so I begin to doubt it all again.
omg i didn't read until now, you are right!TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:20 am @Michelle check out Baron Wulfenbach’s castle wulfenbach power.
i searched and didn't find and interdiction to post links
Timmer answered lately thisjuliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:53 pm I keep coming back to this point about Michelle:
I agree with Jack, it is weird considering she was on two counter wagons.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:02 pm Michelle says absolutely nothing about Sabie all game. That’s a very weird spot to be considering how big a suspect Sabie has been and that Michelle was on the counterwagon to Sabie twice.
Also Owner pointed out that until this last day period Michelle "didn't have enough umph". She also pointed out Michelle's vote record which is not great Timmer, Luna, Creature, Timmer with no vote on Day 1. (Owner thought the lack of a day 1 vote was suspicious though I've seen that before from civs).
I can see what Owner is saying about the umph and the votes, though I kind of feel bad for Michelle if she was in 5 games and was hosting 1 and that could be responsible for the lack of umph.
Then there was this from Michelle:
I don't see timmer as avoiding confrontations but @Michelle maybe you could give an example? It seems to me more like she is still stuck on him from Day 1 and is just looking for things now that she can say about him.Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:07 pmTimmer - he didn't show up yet after saying he's busy. You find him villager? I find him laying low and avoiding confrontations. In all game he didn't question my vote on him. At least i didn't find it. How is this villagery?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:57 am Okay great. Help me find a wolf if you ain’t one.
Who should we lynch?
So I can see voting Michelle but there are also some things about timmer that look bad that I will have to outline tomorrow because I'm tired.
What do some of the rest of you think, like @Quin and @TonyStarkPrime ? Or @Dragomir and @sprityo, please speak up. I'm also interested in comments from any of you who have already voted. Have I missed anything significant about Michelle?
I'll sleep on it and identify the things that make me uncomfortable with timmer in the morning. Note that EOD is early tomorrow, 1:30 pm EST.
from the living players only Jack, you and Drago (as host) know my meta from what i remember.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:35 amNo. If you think someone is town you say why. Have you played with Michelle before?
Tbh as scum knowing Sabie will be lynched, i would vote there.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:15 amI noticed that as well. I wasn't really against a Sabie lynch on D4 either, but I preferred Creature over her. I remember Juliets jumping back and forth between Creature and Sabie. I don't think scum would do that if teamed with Sabie. I expect scum to either have bussed or just went for Creature. Still suspicious of Michelle who also voted off Sabie both times. Could also see Timmer being teamed with Sabie and wagons last day being scum/scum.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:55 pm The Creature and Sabie wagons being so similar is odd. Both contain Jack, Diz, Timmer, Juliets. We added LC to lynch Sabie and subtracted Michelle, who voted Timmer instead, under the guise of independent thought after I pushed her for her bad Creature vote.
I think that’s a bad look for Michelle and a good look for Timmer.
Let’s see what Michelle actually said about Creature, Sabie and Timmer.
I explained my inactivity and my votes. To say it shortly again, i was really busy back thenOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:55 pmI'm not crazy about your deflection, Dom.Spoiler: show
But I don't really see Michelle's presence in the thread. (yeah, I'm one to talk; thanks for noticing. But if I'm really looking at the thread, it's like there's not enough umph for me to be like you and say that she's the wrong lynch for today.
Like what has she done to tip the scales for you?
She's voted for Timmer, Lunalee, Creature, and Timmer again. And it looks like she didn't even vote day 1. What town doesn't vote day 1?
Like priorities man, right now I'm fine with the vote on Michelle.
I might be voting there today.
I like Timmer. I liked Creature before they died.
In my mind, Michelle has potential to be mafia scum.
I never saw this ability in all the games i played in. Is this how usually things are working here?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:26 amWell it’s not very much rng if scum can remove 1 vote from any wagon now is itMichelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:31 ami was host in my site. Town won 2 of 3 rng votes and mafia was lynched. This info you imply here is false if i take the MU midbot choices for tied wagons too.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:38 pm I’m not in the mood for this insane tomfoolery tonight. If it comes down to a tie between Michelle and Timmer I’ll break and vote on Michelle because mafia powers mean that mafia always wins ties so that cannot be allowed — by the way that mechanic means the rational people in this town right now should figure out which one to go with.
If it comes to it I’ll read some of my yellow reads and try to build a case on Juliets or Dom again or Dizzy or whoever seems scummy
i was host in my site. Town won 2 of 3 rng votes and mafia was lynched. This info you imply here is false if i take the MU midbot choices for tied wagons too.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:38 pm I’m not in the mood for this insane tomfoolery tonight. If it comes down to a tie between Michelle and Timmer I’ll break and vote on Michelle because mafia powers mean that mafia always wins ties so that cannot be allowed — by the way that mechanic means the rational people in this town right now should figure out which one to go with.
If it comes to it I’ll read some of my yellow reads and try to build a case on Juliets or Dom again or Dizzy or whoever seems scummy
am i allowed to post links from other sites here?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:28 pmActually can you provide a link to your latest town and scum game please?
I understand you are chill and all but from my experience in mafia the day's 1 interactions are the best scumhunt tools during the game. You don't help me to understand if i am possibly wrong about you with just 'it's a game".timmer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:26 pm I'm sorry everyone, after posting about my big drive,
I got a text from a different person and ended up being up with her until sunrise ans only now am I home ans im exhausted.
I just did a very quick skim and michelle, I never mentioned your thoughts on me much because there isn't a lot to say, you seem mostly sick on stuff from like day 1 and I'm past all that, but I don't freak if people are voting me, is just a game.
For now, I'm leaving a vote on sprotyo for basically trolling which doesn't feel toen
You are not wrong at all. I posted more today.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:24 pmIs it just me or did you sort of start posting more now that there are 3 votes on you?Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:07 pmTimmer - he didn't show up yet after saying he's busy. You find him villager? I find him laying low and avoiding confrontations. In all game he didn't question my vote on him. At least i didn't find it. How is this villagery?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:57 am Okay great. Help me find a wolf if you ain’t one.
Who should we lynch?
From an outside perspective, one could assume that teammate told you that your life was on the line and told you to post more.
One could assume that you were busy elsewhere, but even then, we are to read what you have set before us.
Do you generally question all the people who vote for you?
Tony didn't question my vote him. Should I still be suspicious of this fact? He's active but aware...
Timmer - he didn't show up yet after saying he's busy. You find him villager? I find him laying low and avoiding confrontations. In all game he didn't question my vote on him. At least i didn't find it. How is this villagery?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:57 am Okay great. Help me find a wolf if you ain’t one.
Who should we lynch?
You came in the slot of Oreki before he could say anything AI related. This is bad because i usually read him well.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:58 amSomethingJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:39 pm @sprityo
Were you gonna post something or just checking to make sure nobody is voting for you or what?
A player can learn from such experience and play different isn't it? How tricked you SK Jack?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:57 pm Also my deep rooted assumption is that Jack never reminds me of the time he tricked me as SK if he is the SK.
Instead someone else noticing this oddness, let Jack tell you this, he who had not a better behaviour. He scumread or not Creature but he voted him and after he is accusing me of bad sheeping. He is clean, of course.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:55 pm The Creature and Sabie wagons being so similar is odd. Both contain Jack, Diz, Timmer, Juliets. We added LC to lynch Sabie and subtracted Michelle, who voted Timmer instead, under the guise of independent thought after I pushed her for her bad Creature vote.
I think that’s a bad look for Michelle and a good look for Timmer.
Let’s see what Michelle actually said about Creature, Sabie and Timmer.
I've played with Rej few games, he has an odd way of villaging but I wasn't present here all day to notice you will lynch him for real. My only sin was hard multitabling.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:02 pm Michelle consistently scumreads Timmer all game because Timmer pushed Rej and Michelle didn’t like that (will have to check if Michelle cared about the Rej push at the time or if it’s just vote justification after the fact.
Michelle says absolutely nothing about Sabie all game. That’s a very weird spot to be considering how big a suspect Sabie has been and that Michelle was on the counterwagon to Sabie twice.
Yes I was low poster. this is my meta lately.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:04 pm Michelle offers this lone post in defense of Rej D1. That’s it.Spoiler: show
I considered you villa few days in a row but I have a doubt rn. You started to shade me since y-day and today you only see me in the playerlist to solve the puzzle. This is agenda-y and your towniness is way lower now.
If I knew Sabie is scum I would be on his wagon yesterday and pick up the town points.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:48 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I hate her sheeping a townie she’s watched derp all over the place when it comes to reading a player she knows just as well as me which resulted in a mislynch on Creature instead of a scumlynch on Sabie.
I’m still waiting for her to do something.
That said, I wanna resolve Timmer vs Epi pretty badly. It’s easy to argue Timmerwas trying to save Sabie D4. It’s easy to argue the same of Epi D5. I doubt Epi decides to buss Timmer and Sabie at the same damn time after doing so well so imo a scum lynch on either player clears the other.
In mountainous i was wolf and my duty was to pocket you tbh... and in Anni i was town. In the first game i put a lot of time and in Anni i was shot by town because i was inactive. While i still remember your february game when you was wolf and i was town i forgot your AI in Anni.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:23 pmHow would you rate my confidence level of your alignment in Mountainous? Or Anni 2019?Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:51 pmBecause you posted very confident. I should make some reads myself, i know this.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:35 amThe issue is not “why do you think I’m town” cause I’m obviously town.Spoiler: show
The issue is “why do you trust that my reads are correct?”
I have to catch up now, no sheep this time.
Because you posted very confident. I should make some reads myself, i know this.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:35 amThe issue is not “why do you think I’m town” cause I’m obviously town.Spoiler: show
The issue is “why do you trust that my reads are correct?”
Can you quote the timmer's posts who felt townish?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:39 am I’d lynch several people before Timmer. There have been 2 or 3 posts that feel like they come from town Timmer with a certain role. They aren’t that tough to fake but I’ve got nothing in Sprityo or Sabie or Michelle’s defense except a guy I kinda trust (Epi) saying he kinda thinks Michelle is town.
Guilty of sheeping ^^ i have to confessJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:04 am [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
@Michelle
What do you have to say for yourself? Why did you sheep me on Creature yesterday?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:59 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
If LC gets lynched today imma be mad.
This post was convincing because i can never read Creature and it looked like you were certain about this read. (thinking at Creature being the same with the MU account with same username, but even if it's not, for me is an unknown player, so hard to read as well)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:44 pmCause the case on LC is primo garbo.
And Creature is falling off like he does as scum.
Here again you looked convinced about Creature looking bad.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:04 pm Sabie looks bad but not as bad as Creature.
Honestly, Tony’s bucket thing looks pretty bad. Seems like the kinda thing I’d come up with to justify stupid reads.
“I arbitrarily guessed there are +1 scum in this arbitrary bucket. Therefore *bad vote*”
I know no one in this game very well, i have an idea about your meta and, in that game you are talking about, i actually read all your posts. Was not like "yay i'm scum i will be lazy all game" but "oops i'm scum and a team to work with"and i was active all the game.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:18 pm Why would Michelle sheep me? I’ve misread her in every game we’ve played together where I was town and I think my faction is like 0 and 4 in games we’ve player together.
I wouldn’t sheep someone with that track record.
i am going to sheep Jack in his read for Creature.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:04 pm Sabie looks bad but not as bad as Creature.
Honestly, Tony’s bucket thing looks pretty bad. Seems like the kinda thing I’d come up with to justify stupid reads.
“I arbitrarily guessed there are +1 scum in this arbitrary bucket. Therefore *bad vote*”
She interacted with me questioning my read about timmer and i liked her oppinion after she said she read his iso. Maybe she just pocketed me, now i can see it after her flip.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:57 pm D3 stuff
Lol. Maybe juliets is town or at least not mafia, think mafia would be aware of who's lynched and not
This to Luna I don't like considering she flipped Indy
Also don't like this. "Red checked? I like her posts." What did you like about them?
I think my post above is an answer at this too.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:48 pmWasn't the Luna lynch pretty set though? I don't really see how this is clearing for Michelle in any case. I found assuming red check but liking Luna's posts kind of weird, but I don't know how it would make sense for any alignment. Maybe @Michelle can comment on it herself?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:22 amEverybody more or less assumed that. Michelle arguing it with Luna showing up as an independent (and not a mafia member) means that Michelle was theoretically cool having the lynch land on a teammate.
That didn't happen, but Michelle was open to it.
I like that. Good stuff.
Present, better late than never. Busy irlDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:18 pmOh right, we did talk about Michelle. But since I had already forgotten it doesn't count =p But I guess she has had more focus than both Sabie and Sprit.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:54 pmDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:28 am Sprit's ISO is even thinner. And they replaced in to fill a void. >_>
Nobody is talking about him or Michelle either. If scum is lurky lurkers I'm going to be annoyed cause that's boring.
