dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:41 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 7:04 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 5:38 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 5:27 pm
You people are insane. But I’m more insane for thinking that JJJ vs. dunya is mafia on mafia.
What do you see that tells you this?
Tinfoil.
first post, a little confusing. he thinks we're mafia / mafia, as in w/w, as in distancing or does he think we're both mafia of different mafia teams? tinfoil is suspicion that seems unnecessary because you have a reason to town read a person, but there's like a nagging voice that tries to make you think no, he could be scum. so what's the tinfoil here? why are we likely mafia on mafia? feels like a rather baseless thing to say.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 7:27 pm
Gotta say I agree with dunya here, although I don't recall what the original disagreement here looked like. Not saying it's never happened, but handpicking who the scum are based on the deliberately weird role they submitted would be a supremely strange mod decision and out of line with at least every game I've played.
if there's one person in this argument between me and Golden who looks like they
could have TMI and came in and tried to buddy up to me, it's ColinIsCool. Now that's tinfoil for ya.
someone mentioned they didn't like Colin's vote on wolbre,
but I actually credit him for his read and explanation of why he didn't like the role. it makes sense what usually when you're searching for someone, it's done via a night action through the host where you send in a name of someone who's likely to be who you are looking for, and they do the same, till you find each other. so yea, that was a genuine response.
now here's where things get interesting:
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 8:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 8:48 pm
When presented with the theory that wolbre04 lied about needing to pursue a second boob as a means of furthering his boob-irrelevant win condition, all I can respond with is:
...
why?
It's near impossible that someone else submitted the role for the second boob. I could see people saying they don't care who or what they are though (I got a few of those in my last sock heist) and then being assigned the other boob. Or it could be an item. I dunno.
It is near impossible that someone submitted the role, which makes it odd that he is supposed to seek it out. One boob is a player while the other boob is an object? I dunno. The boob logic doesn't add up there in a way that pleases me.
If he is lying about that, then what else is he lying about, daresay?
These are all wild theories. I just want people to talk about 'em.
first of all, i find the use of daresay a little awkward here.
way too formal or something planted to make it sound like it's an original thought he just had and feels confident about maybe wolbre is lying.
now look at fast he dropped it after feeling he wasn't getting the reaction from people he expected:
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 8:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 8:56 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 8:54 pm
It is near impossible that someone submitted the role
It's considerably less near impossible that someone signed up to play and told Mac to make up a role for them -- and he decided to create a second breast.
This would be the most bizarre, specific lie I have ever seen.
That certainly sounds plausible. It didn't occur to me until now at least, so thanks for the idea.
it just seems like Colin was holding onto a hot potato and wanted to get rid of it. colin already theorized that it could be possible there is a second boob person in the game, and he was questioning wolbre's authenticity because hunting for your missing part openly doesn't make sense when it's attached to seeking another player out (something I agree with, especially coming from different mafia backgrounds). and now when Jay mentions it as possible, it just becomes the "certainly plausible" theory.
something fishy there imo.
mental note: up intil 3.09pm yesterday, Colin was defending me and still not seeing the TMI potential in the arguments against me.
making a note of it because he planted a vote on me at the end of the day, and I'd like to see how organic that progression was.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 10:09 am
Caught up through pg 16. As far as dunya knowing too much goes, is there any reason to actually think a scum would know if roles are randomized or not? They could guess or infer, maybe, but I don’t see the TMI potential there. I know it looks like I’m defending dunya at every step so if she’s bad this will bite me but that rings unsound to me.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 11:19 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 10:53 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 10:50 am
I think either JJJ, dunya and Golden are either all town or all scum.
Mostly a gut thing. Dunya’s play reminds me of the exasperated scum I saw in Greece. I don’t buy into Golden’s characterization of her and think his take on me was belabored. JJJ just scares me generally. Don’t take this too seriously yet.
so, another weird little piling of me and jay and this time Golden too. we're either all scum, or all town. check that out.
exasperated scum in Ancient Greece? where was I "exasperated"? I think I played a pretty loose game there until I actually came back from Paris. I can't say I felt exasperated at any time, and as someone who shared BTSC with me, I find his description rather suspect. @speedchuck / @Sloonei - would you say I was an exasperated scum in Greece?
Furthermore, he went and explained why he thinks we're all scum when cBob asked him. he didn't tell us why we could all be town. a bit of a "mumble jumble" grouping. don't like it.
It is 11.20pm now on day 1. he parks a vote on Scotty for his tone being different than Ancient Greece:
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 6:20 pm
Gonna park myself elsewhere for now, I find the 3P theory against wolbre compelling but, then again, this set-up is kind of fucked so he could be a ridiculous townie. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at least.
[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
Scotty, your tone is very different from the civ I saw in AG. Would you care to respond? Additionally, I see a lot of you asking questions of other people, but what about your own reads? Who do you got?
again, another reminder for myself mostly to see how it moved off Scotty and led back to me.
now below is also a big trigger for me from Colin:
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 7:48 pm
I think at least one of the persons complaining about the pace of the game/not knowing about things that have been discussed in great detail are scum. We saw people employ it as a strategy to great success in AG; it’s a great way to post without posting anything risky or engaging anybody in particular. As the game goes on, I implore the town to not buy it.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 7:53 pm
Sloonei and dunya and maybe even speed? Granted, they had pretty good reasons from time to time, but I am on red alert for it now.
where did I do that? little did everyone know but we were as clueless about stuff as everyone else. when I tried to push the theory that scum team wouldn't know if a 3p chose to align with them (something not explicitly denied in the OP and Jay wouldn't confirm or deny it), I knew one of the 2 leaders of Sparta or Athens would call me out on it. we were playing with the belief that whoever aligned with town, was revealed to the leader of that town faction.
so I'd like Colin to reveal to me where me and Sloonei (and maybe speed) posted about things that have been discussed in great detail in Ancient Greece, cos I call that an empty accusation.
It is 6.02PM on the second 48hrs of Day 1 and ColinIsCool has moved his vote to Elochin because he liked the case against her. I recall Colin was interested in nutella's case (that I made) and was waiting for her rebuttal. Colin never mentioned it again, though.
see below for proof of Colin's Eloh vote so we can keep track and see how that further progressed off of me:
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 1:02 pm
I like the argument I've seen put forth against Elohcin.
[VOTE:
ELOHCIN] aubergine
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 7:28 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 4:08 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 1:02 pm
I like the argument I've seen put forth against Elohcin.
[VOTE:
ELOHCIN] aubergine
mmmmmm I hate this post!! please elaborate on your thoughts colin
What’s there to hate about it? Elohcin’s posts ring a little false to me, and while she has some very good excuses, like I said I am wary of the “not reading the thread” thing. It’s not helpful if you’re town and I just saw it help secure a win in AG. I’m not caught up so I may change my vote but let me just say I find it very strange that you put me in the middle of a rainbow list and yet here your vote is on me...
nutella/Elo/Colin on the same scum team? possible.
He said Eloh's posts ring a little false. Then he said "she has some very good excuses". Then he said "wary of people not reading the thread". wishy washy fake much? and look there at the closing statement at some shade thrown nutella's way. convenient. very tidy. what's the likeliness of three scums on the same team bussing each other on day 1?
*flashbacks of FE*
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 7:35 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 4:46 pm
Okay, well...if I have to vote soon, I guess I do. I am playing a vote on Colin and it has nothing to do with him voting me personally, it has to do with him jumping on what he sees as a potential train without giving any reasons for his vote. Seems opportunistic.
For the record, I think nutella is good. And after reading dunya all day, I think she is good too.
In Ancient Greece, I am lynched for “placing an easy vote off-wagon.”
In U-Pick, I attract votes for “placing an easy vote on wagon.”
???
I find it revealing that colin is mentally making a note of what got him lynched in Ancient Greece and how he is almost self admitting to doing the opposite of that here. don't like this post.
and now...the good part:
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 7:50 pm
My vote on Eloh was very flippant and not the end of my thinking. I can’t find the posts because I am on mobile. This is totally going to be called OMGUS, but I hate what I’ve seen from nutella in the last 10 or so pages, including the quoted above. I didn’t like her response to dunya putting on heat earlier either, and I am of course not buying her stance toward me. The rainbow list that seems to have been rendered useless 10 minutes after posting — what’s the point in that? No sir. No good.
he says his vote on Eloh was flippant. He says he hates nutella and her response to my case against her (finally acknowledging he read her rebuttal but it took him this long after nutella was conveniently distancing from him to mention it) and says her stance against him was fake, including her rainbow. this was posted at 12.50am which is a few mins mins away from eod.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 7:54 pm
Let’s make things even more exciting. I wonder what happens in a tie.
[VOTE:
DUNYA] aubergine
he votes for dunya to make things exciting at 12.54am.
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I'm stopping his ISO now.
I don't need to see "more".
hands off my man
I didn't say I cannot ever die. I give up. I may not me intelligent enough to google "indestructible species", but at least I have reading comprehension skills. CAN YOU READ?!? I think I am going to have to walk away before I finish catching up. Y'all are annoying.
I'm on your side here, I'm just trying to process everything.
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