Mafia (GAME OVER)

[G-Man]

Alison is replacing chardonnay effective immediately.

[Scirrus]

I'll have at least a little time to get out my thoughts after work before the night deadline. See y'all then o/

Enrique is town, and I still feel JJJ is town

LC's apology seems kinda weird coming from scum like I think he'd come up with something better to say than that

I will review the rest but not sure my reads have changed all that much

But please post as much as you can up to the limit y'all!

[Alison]

sup

[Alison]

Scum team is Grogu, Chardonnay, and Enrique for raisins

c y'all later gg

salad

kill this

[Alison]

fingersplints just kinda opened the game in a way that I think looks authentic. She hasn’t played in a very long time, and the uneasy-yet-personally-insightful approach she took with me specifically fits what I’d expect (if she returned as a civilian).

Poison just felt loose and fun without feeling fake.

It’s weak, sure. Don’t think I care though. I think this is my 10th?

JJJ stretching to throw out some thin reads feels townie because it's like he's trying to get into the game. Mafia JJJ just chills for a bit and adapts his reads to fit the context later, or maybe just enjoys town flailing to get the game going a bit more.

town lean.

[Alison]

You sound like you're more concerned with what the host is doing and not what the anybody else is doing.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I answered a gripe from Nanook about the topic. I already told folks my reads. You read my post. You know that. This is fake.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[3]

Your "reads" are fake. I felt as much when I read them.

I don't believe you. You've just moved the goalposts because the initial accusation was terrible.

I don't care if you believe me. You don't share my alignment.

imo this is V/V since i doubt epi rolls scum and immediately all ins town JJJ

i guess maybe this is villa epi and he caught wolf JJJ but I'm not really moved by this case so eh

either way epi is prolly town

[Alison]

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

not used to town marmot approaching the game in such a straightforward and head on textbook manner. where's your head at marmot? are you a wolf?

[Alison]

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

I definitely did not shade anyone and I didn’t comment negatively on jay talking about mechanics and I’m honestly confused how you think that’s what happened

nanook is flipped town. not a great look for marmot.

[Alison]

I HATE POST LIMITS.
So far I like Chard and Scirrusu ig
[8]

poison spewing all her thoughts out on the page feels transparent and authentic. I've seen similar behavior when I was town with her. no worries here. It's a good sign that she read epi/JJJ as t/t too.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I slept on it and my top suspect is Marmot. I’ll continue trying to squeeze out interactions later.

[Alison]

I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

give me current reads please.

[Alison]

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

Alright. Welcome to the club!
@JaggedJimmyJay stop playing around, marmot is off limit.
We would be honored if you would join us!

Repost

why is marmot off limits grogu?

[Alison]

thinking about enrique/marmot interactions. my first instinct was that they weren't wolves together because of the confusion about marmot's old meta, and the fact that enrique would not want to treat a buddy in such a manner (ties himself to marmot if marmot flips, without actually doing anything to dismantle suspicion on marmot). but then I remembered that enrique and marmot were in mysterious universe and now I'm wondering why enrique still thinks marmot is D1 misexe bait when marmot got dragged so far into that game. @Enrique

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also hi Alison. Appreciate your immediate efforts.

[Alison]

Kids are getting snacks.

Role claiming legal.

So fuck it. You all did this to yourselves.

I am the civilian jack of all trades.

One shot block.
One shot protect.
One shot vote strip.

Good job, good luck.

At least mafia will kill me and I can stop punishing myself.

At least use this time to actually lynch a mafia a member and not a civilian who doesn't post until late evening anymore (and JJJ knows this shit, as do others).

one shot protect? great. I'm the cop. protect me for a free win.

[Alison]

My internet keeps going out and it’s late for me. Trying to make sense of Epi’s responses and role claim. Im not sure I really like the “this is all your fault” and “use this time to lynch a mafia member” without much contribution. I also don’t know if “Jack of all trades” is a common role, especially in such a small game.
Going to try to reread the recent development on nanook

epi is telling the truth.

if splints is mafia they know epi is telling the truth.

mafiosos don't flame claimed JOATs with a bad temper.

splints is paranoid town.

[Alison]

scirrus is always on the sidelines, never in the fray. I don't like that.

scirrus and marmot are my top suspects. I'm going to check one of them tonight. block me if you can.

[Alison]

I'm a cop.

nanook is a doctor.

epi is JOAT.

there are 11 players total in this game.

the only way for this game to be balanced, even if every other townie is VT, is that the mafia get some really busted abilities. watch out for that.

[Alison]

Mafia:

I have the strongest power role in the game, or at least it's probably the strongest (certainly one of them). Here's your choice:

Leave me alive, and let me mechanically lock the game.
Kill me, and lose the distraction I represent.

Have fun. Chitter chitter.

If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead right now. I'm the biggest reason you're alive. Read the thread.

You were already dead, and I saved you. It wasn't even about your role claim. I don't give a damn about that.

Note for posterity: JJJ switched his vote to Nanook, and within a minute Epi showed up and role-claimed.

I still don't know that "I saved you" is accurate but the timing helps. It wasn't a sure thing that Epi would get lynched, and at least a couple of us only went for Nanook in the end because we thought he was slightly preferable to Epi (could have been anyone!).

Perhaps I give myself too much credit, but I do think Epi had a 5-2 lead with an hour to go when Nanook made the post I hated and I blew a fuse. It would have been pretty cake from my perspective to just stay put, keep EOD controversy at a minimum, and let him die. If I had been the opportunistic mafioso I am portrayed to be, that's what would have most likely occurred.

now JJJ is claiming he has a power role that gives us auto?

what the fuck is going on?

[Alison]

I'm going to ignore the mech shit. JJJ warned us not to get lost in the mechanical weeds because it's a trap in G-Man games. I'm going to trust that's true.

Let's pretend it's mountainous. From day talk alone, I think scirrus and marmot are the most likely scum. I think epignosis, JJJ, and fingersplints are town, setting aside issues of claiming. I have no problem with poison, but she's not as townie as my other townreads. enrique, long con and grogu sit in the middle and need to be sorted.

I've changed my mind, I'm going to investigate enrique.

[fingersplints]

I lost a close friend today and my head isn’t in a place for any mafia. I’ll try and come around if I feel up for it later but I likely won’t be posting until tomorrow.

[Alison]

two doctors + strong PRs (cop and whatever JJJ is) means there's a strongman somewhere.

if I get strongmanned I want you to remember #270 as my legacy.

[Alison]

I lost a close friend today and my head isn’t in a place for any mafia. I’ll try and come around if I feel up for it later but I likely won’t be posting until tomorrow.

My condolences. I hope you feel better soon.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I lost a close friend today and my head isn’t in a place for any mafia. I’ll try and come around if I feel up for it later but I likely won’t be posting until tomorrow.

Very sorry to hear it splints. No rush to deal with this silly game.

[Marmot]

I lost a close friend today and my head isn’t in a place for any mafia. I’ll try and come around if I feel up for it later but I likely won’t be posting until tomorrow.

I'm sorry to hear that splints. Take all the time you need.

[Marmot]

Apologies that I couldn't be around at EOD. I left a sort of legacy when I did because I had the most votes at the time, and didn't anticipate being able to be active very much after that point.

Catching up now.


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Epi is a fine wagon. I rather protect marmot

I don't know why you want to protect me so badly, but I can live with this pocket. For now!!!


* * * * *

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

What reasonable conclusions are these? I just sheeped Chard bc I had no read on you and was bored.

Why is JJJ's vote on you scummier than mine?

Would you have suspected Nanook to have be more involved in the game by now?

You sheeped chard yes, but I liked the manner in which you did it tone-wise

I liked less the manner that JJJ did it. Considering the thoughts he'd put into players to that point, he'd not put much into my slot.

Per Nanook, maybe slightly, but I voted Epi over him because I did expect Epignosis to be more involved, but obviously I'm wrong on Nanook, and probably wrong on Epi


* * * * *

Does anyone have a reason that Epignosis should not be chopped today?

@Scirrus where are you at on Marmot at this point?

@Long Con what's up bruddaman

*exasperated shrug*

I'm glad we have open nights.

Ok so I don't find Marmots focus and questions towny at all and I have no idea why he townreads me

But I'm trying to think about the claim thing bc I missed upon my first readthrough. Do you find it unlikely that the vanilla claim could be some sort of gambit? Idk if that's something people do here. I've seen vanilla town fakeclaim PR's to get out of a yeet but would this be a good strategy the other way around? Like, say Marmot was mafia and claims later on that he's a PR and just fakeclaimed vanilla to avoid getting NK'd or something. Is that a tactic that you don't really see flying?

I'm mostly entertaining this bc I don't find most of his play towny

As evidenced by your read of me, I don't need to claim VT to avoid an NK.


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I think there were three wagons on Day 1, and JJJ was involved in all of them, to different extents. This is just an observation. I expect this from him at either alignment. Downside is, it does look like all three of us are town, so if JJJ's town too, he's got some re-reading to do.

[Marmot]

Okay then.

I don't really know what to do with this game at the moment. People I would call confident civilian reads:

Scirrus
Poison

Less confident, but civilian reads:

Long Con
fingersplints

That's where I stand for now. I will see if I can squeeze any kind of analytic meaning out of this thread during the night. I'd like to try blind interactions to see who fits together and who doesn't -- it's manageable with a small roster, but I also expect difficulty with lack of content.

Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

[Marmot]

Well this is awkward-

I am in need of a replacement player, but I cannot see who voted 'maybe' in the sign-up thread. If any of you spectators were my maybes and/or you'd like to join the fray, please PM me pronto!

I fixed the issue, you should be able to see them now.

[Marmot]

I slept on it and my top suspect is Marmot. I’ll continue trying to squeeze out interactions later.

I hope you ask for consent before you start squeezing people

[Marmot]

two doctors + strong PRs (cop and whatever JJJ is) means there's a strongman somewhere.

if I get strongmanned I want you to remember #270 as my legacy.

Post 270 says you're ignoring mech shit. And this post is not doing that.

[Alison]

two doctors + strong PRs (cop and whatever JJJ is) means there's a strongman somewhere.

if I get strongmanned I want you to remember #270 as my legacy.

Post 270 says you're ignoring mech shit. And this post is not doing that.

I'm just saying, if I get killed anyway, that's my legacy. Not going to read more into it than that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

As of that post he wasn’t. That was the immediate aftermath of Nanook’s flip. Why should Epignosis have been a confident civilian read at that moment?

He is one now after going into his token confirmation bias routine last night.

[Alison]

Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

As of that post he wasn’t. That was the immediate aftermath of Nanook’s flip. Why should Epignosis have been a confident civilian read at that moment?

He is one now after going into his token confirmation bias routine last night.

claiming JOAT the way he did didn't move you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

As of that post he wasn’t. That was the immediate aftermath of Nanook’s flip. Why should Epignosis have been a confident civilian read at that moment?

He is one now after going into his token confirmation bias routine last night.

claiming JOAT the way he did didn't move you?

No, his claim meant just barely more than nothing to me. It was made an hour to the deadline under heavy vote pressure. Just about any claim can be fake under those conditions without it being a surprise.

Like I said earlier: I don’t think his claim played a major role in his surviving the chop. Nanook just ended up a preferred alternative in the end (and I accept responsibility for having yelled about it loudly at EOD to cause that change). I’d switched my own vote there before the claim anyway. I figure that all develops the same way, or nearly so, had Epi not claimed at all. Maybe someone out there will protest that if they want.

I believe it now anyway.

[Enrique]

thinking about enrique/marmot interactions. my first instinct was that they weren't wolves together because of the confusion about marmot's old meta, and the fact that enrique would not want to treat a buddy in such a manner (ties himself to marmot if marmot flips, without actually doing anything to dismantle suspicion on marmot). but then I remembered that enrique and marmot were in mysterious universe and now I'm wondering why enrique still thinks marmot is D1 misexe bait when marmot got dragged so far into that game. @Enrique

Does a common thing stop being common when you witness an exception?

[Enrique]

Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

As of that post he wasn’t. That was the immediate aftermath of Nanook’s flip. Why should Epignosis have been a confident civilian read at that moment?

He is one now after going into his token confirmation bias routine last night.

claiming JOAT the way he did didn't move you?

No, his claim meant just barely more than nothing to me. It was made an hour to the deadline under heavy vote pressure. Just about any claim can be fake under those conditions without it being a surprise.

Like I said earlier: I don’t think his claim played a major role in his surviving the chop. Nanook just ended up a preferred alternative in the end (and I accept responsibility for having yelled about it loudly at EOD to cause that change). I’d switched my own vote there before the claim anyway. I figure that all develops the same way, or nearly so, had Epi not claimed at all. Maybe someone out there will protest that if they want.

I believe it now anyway.

I do not know that I would’ve cared to break the tie or save Epi without the claim. I won’t say for sure that I wouldn’t have but you’re really too confident in this. What I didn’t want to happen was to see someone I really thought was a civ (Epi) get lynched, and that made me intervene. I felt positively about him before but it’s not as if the claim just went unnoticed.

[Enrique]

I lost a close friend today and my head isn’t in a place for any mafia. I’ll try and come around if I feel up for it later but I likely won’t be posting until tomorrow.

take all the time you need mandi<3 I’m really sorry for your loss.

[Marmot]

Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

As of that post he wasn’t. That was the immediate aftermath of Nanook’s flip. Why should Epignosis have been a confident civilian read at that moment?

He is one now after going into his token confirmation bias routine last night.

Yeah, I see you changed your mind later.

At this point, Epi had claimed, so yeah I would've expected that to be factored in.

[Enrique]

should’ve asked earlier but what is “ POE “

[Marmot]

should’ve asked earlier but what is “ POE “

Process of Elimination.

Rather then specifically looking for the scummiest player among all players in the game to vote, it's a process to eliminate players from your POE pool that look townie and vote among those who are left. So POE just refers to that smaller subset of players.

[Marmot]

Fancy new term for a thing that existed already.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Alisonnay and Enrique

Spoiler: show

@Scirrus

Support my marmot push out of the kindness of your heart?

I kno you maybe SR me or something, (idk whats real and whats not), but we can totally support each other in a D1 push right?

-/--/-/-/-/

@Enrique

i dont want to make up tags, but where do you fall on that chart you ref''d?

Also support my marmot wagon?

I will answer you with a graphic tomorrow.

Have a good night!

[2]

i am holding you too this my homie! I wanna see your graphs. Wanna inspect them. :P

[6] i think, gonna rest now

@Scirrus

Support my marmot push out of the kindness of your heart?

I kno you maybe SR me or something, (idk whats real and whats not), but we can totally support each other in a D1 push right?

-/--/-/-/-/

@Enrique

i dont want to make up tags, but where do you fall on that chart you ref''d?

Also support my marmot wagon?

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

[3]

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

There's nothing here to separate them. Alison has been mildly anti-Enrique or neutral since arriving. Night actions may resolve things. Yellow for the moment.


Alisonnay and fingersplints

Spoiler: show

Ayyyy, sirrus can be town w/ JJJ, and LC

I actully dont know about JJJ's takeaway from finger splints. Finger's carefully worded posts feel like it could come nervous scum. If JJJ has good meta there then i'd like a play by play in future posts.

-/-/-/-/

Im interested in who else will help me support a marmot wagon. Any more takers?

Ok I’ll do it too now, since I will have less time for list making later

Would I chop?

chardonnay:
***see below

[SNIP]

Ok, I’m having a hard time separating the players I haven’t played with in the past as I’m not familiar with how any of them play. There’s been some ok posts and there has been some fluff.

Admittedly not the greatest reads, but it’s where I’m at.

I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

@Poison, the “nothing” tier is meant to depict “I feel nothing about their posts that suggests to me they are civilians”. Surely some of them are civilians; I haven’t seen it yet.

Epi hurled his poo at me and that’s fine. I’ll see what he does with it and determine how I feel.

Have you guys done this before?

I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

I see. What are your views on Scirrus and chard?

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

[3]

I think I like this post.

I don’t have an opinion on them yet.

There's not much here, but there is at least something to squeeze. chardonnay threw some shade in splints' direction about "careful" writing in her posts. Her response to that accusation did not directly address chardonnay, but rather the game at large. That's not what ordinary distancing looks like, being one directional in a confrontation like that. Alison has been pro-splints since arriving in a way that makes me feel neither better nor worse.

This is a game of squeezing. Green.

Alisonnay and Long Con

Spoiler: show

I think every game i've played/modded one this site invloved Long Con in some way. This is fascinating me to no ends, that man is everywhere

Nanook as well i believe, has been involved a great deal in my games here! maybe all of them?

-/-/-/-

Has anybody ever low-key wanted to SR a player because of their pfp?

G-Man’s signature spoiler is a rick roll gif. It fooled Grogu.

That’s not an attitude that will get you into those damned “town cores”, LC.

I'm like emo-goth anti-towncore at this point. I don't want in your little club.

i wanna TR LC for not caring about town blocs and stuff

i wanna TR LC for not caring about town blocs and stuff

Do you town read LC for not caring about town blocs and stuff?

hmmm, yes, yes i do.

dont think epi is scummy btw, i forgot to mention that in my catch up quote post. Dont really have a read there yet.

how do you feel about marmot?

chardonnay's desire to call LC a town read with that little hedge I poked him about could be a signal of a connection. That's nothing that inspires confidence in me, but it exists. Long Con never mentioned chardonnay. Alison has only acknowledged that Long Con is a middling read. Yellow

Alisonnay and Poison

Spoiler: show

its not a SR but poisen not longer having that dancing chibi dancing character is throwing me off big time.

i may have a tendency to wanna SR ppl with pics of cute animals as thier avies

its not a SR but poisen not longer having that dancing chibi dancing character is throwing me off big time.

i may have a tendency to wanna SR ppl with pics of cute animals as thier avies

eh, you remember dancing bald chibi poison with her round tummy ? I don't remember playing with you though?

i havent played with you, but ive seen you around on the forums.

what is your new avie of anyways?

we should prob try to spend D1 using gut more then anything. More strong read by EoD the better i think

This should be town or the world is crazy.

@Scirrus

Support my marmot push out of the kindness of your heart?

I kno you maybe SR me or something, (idk whats real and whats not), but we can totally support each other in a D1 push right?

-/--/-/-/-/
Also support my marmot wagon?

honestly, you keep giving me good vibes, stop it or my mind would force me to go round and round with opinions. that's pain.

Ayyyy, sirrus can be town w/ JJJ, and LC

I actully dont know about JJJ's takeaway from finger splints. Finger's carefully worded posts feel like it could come nervous scum. If JJJ has good meta there then i'd like a play by play in future posts.

-/-/-/-/

Im interested in who else will help me support a marmot wagon. Any more takers?

I kind of agree with the @bold

I HATE POST LIMITS.
So far I like Chard and Scirrusu ig
[8]

I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

I see. What are your views on Scirrus and chard?

I found one of these posts meaningful; I highlighted it in orange. If Poison is a mafioso, that comment looks like pocketing work rather than bolstering the thread posture of a teammate. The rest of it does nothing to dissuade that perspective or really encourage it either. Alison has been mildly pro-Poison since arriving. Overall, Green

Alisonnay and Scirrus

This one I don't care to assess right now, at least not without a twinge of inspiration. I don't think Alison is likely to enter a game as a mafioso with Scirrus as a teammate, coming off of a mischop with Scirrus as a consensus town read, and immediately make him a problem. Green

Enrique and fingersplints

Spoiler: show

Reading the JJJ-Epi dialogue the first time I didn't think much of it. I saw it as, precisely as JJJ says, just an exercise to draw out discussion. It's true that Epi hasn't been back or contributed more but I don't like that Jay has only been treating it more seriously. I would have been more concerned if Epi came back and doubled down first.

So out of the three people that currently have votes - Epi, Marmot, JJJ, I would vote for JimmyJay. reywaS wasn't a bad option either.

Why do you think reywaS wasn’t a bad option? Do the inactive players not get replaced nowadays? I guess if the options are modkill or lynch, I suppose with lynch we would at least get to learn the role.

They get replaced yeah, but in a difficult lynch without a lot of options it can still be helpful for revealing information / furthering the game without culling the conversation (and saving the host the trouble of getting a replacement). I don't play often enough to tell you how common this is lately but it's been done and I think it's fine.

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

Ok I’ll do it too now, since I will have less time for list making later

Would I chop?

[SNIP]

Enrique:
No

[SNIP]

Ok, I’m having a hard time separating the players I haven’t played with in the past as I’m not familiar with how any of them play. There’s been some ok posts and there has been some fluff.

Admittedly not the greatest reads, but it’s where I’m at.

jjj still my preference but id break a nanook/epi tie

Who would you vote for epi or nanook?

They were mutually supportive of one another without doing much to explain why, so in that way they're compatible. None of this makes me feel anything though. Yellow

Spoiler: show

lets fucking go!!

@chardonnay
@Enrique
@Epignosis
@fingersplints
@Grogu
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Long Con
@Marmot
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Poison
@reywaS
@Scirrus

Sorry for the delayed start you guys. My in-laws came over and wouldn't take any number of hints as the evening drew on.

Damn Gman you are a savage. You didn’t have to do me like that
Sickest Rick roll @G-Man

?

[SNIP]

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

lets fucking go!!

@chardonnay
@Enrique
@Epignosis
@fingersplints
@Grogu
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Long Con
@Marmot
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Poison
@reywaS
@Scirrus

Sorry for the delayed start you guys. My in-laws came over and wouldn't take any number of hints as the evening drew on.

Damn Gman you are a savage. You didn’t have to do me like that
Sickest Rick roll @G-Man

?

I think every game i've played/modded one this site invloved Long Con in some way. This is fascinating me to no ends, that man is everywhere

Nanook as well i believe, has been involved a great deal in my games here! maybe all of them?

-/-/-/-

Has anybody ever low-key wanted to SR a player because of their pfp?

whats SR?

@Enrique click his award spoilers

Might as well be nothing. Yellow

Enrique and Long Con

Spoiler: show

Sure would be nice to have Long Con around.

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

lets fucking go!!

@chardonnay
@Enrique
@Epignosis
@fingersplints
@Grogu
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Long Con
@Marmot
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Poison
@reywaS
@Scirrus

Sorry for the delayed start you guys. My in-laws came over and wouldn't take any number of hints as the evening drew on.

Damn Gman you are a savage. You didn’t have to do me like that
Sickest Rick roll @G-Man

?

I think every game i've played/modded one this site invloved Long Con in some way. This is fascinating me to no ends, that man is everywhere

Nanook as well i believe, has been involved a great deal in my games here! maybe all of them?

-/-/-/-

Has anybody ever low-key wanted to SR a player because of their pfp?

whats SR?

It's a Rick Roll-esque fakeout that made Grogu think the game had started, I think.

SR = scumread, TR = townread.

Sure would be nice to have Long Con around.

Thank man! I think Epi is not evil.

Enrique has taken a rather naked anti-LC stance, so okay. LC hasn't done much. I want to squeeze a green out of this, but I don't think I can justify it. Yellow

Enrique and Marmot

Spoiler: show

@Scirrus

Support my marmot push out of the kindness of your heart?

I kno you maybe SR me or something, (idk whats real and whats not), but we can totally support each other in a D1 push right?

-/--/-/-/-/

@Enrique

i dont want to make up tags, but where do you fall on that chart you ref''d?

Also support my marmot wagon?

I will answer you with a graphic tomorrow.

Have a good night!

[2]

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

[3]

Reading the JJJ-Epi dialogue the first time I didn't think much of it. I saw it as, precisely as JJJ says, just an exercise to draw out discussion. It's true that Epi hasn't been back or contributed more but I don't like that Jay has only been treating it more seriously. I would have been more concerned if Epi came back and doubled down first.

So out of the three people that currently have votes - Epi, Marmot, JJJ, I would vote for JimmyJay. reywaS wasn't a bad option either.

For posterity’s sake (also.... correct me if I’m wrong I have an imperfect memory...):

Scirrus had originally voted for Marmot, then Epi, then switched to JJJ after a) I did and b) JJJ switched from Epi to Nanook. Now he’s back on Marmot.

Thanks for the explanation Scirrus! I’m just making sure the stuff is on record (we usually use [ vote ] for that but it’s not mandatory). Why the switch back to Marmot though?

I don’t agree with the difference check either btw now knowing what it means. Wanna explain NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME?

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

Hello all, glad to see the game has started. I haven’t had a chance to read everything yet, but have done some quick skimming. A lot is how I remember, but some will take a little getting used to.

What is new to you right now and what hasn't changed?


@Enrique SR = scumread

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

[3]

You and I haven't played together in a while, but I am not a common early misyeet like I used to be. Actually, I've played like a dozen games in my return to mafia last year, and I don't think I've been yeeted before Day 4 even once.

That said, I'd prefer if you opted to read me for my content instead of shielding me for being a common misyeet. There's no read involved there.

The content is right there, making up 90% of the post where only one line references your misyeeting. Is my impression of you wrong?

[5]

I was confused yes, but the votes came before that, not after. So you're not technically right, but I suppose that scenario could play out, and you'd be right.

I think I misread the intention in your post, and thought the reason you were avoiding voting for me was because of your statement that I'm a common mischop.

I have some concerns here. I don't care for Enrique stepping in to sort of white knight for Marmot and explain his thought process to us (chardonnay, Scirrus, and I) for him. Charonnday directly addressed Enrique about joining the Marmot wagon and received no immediate reply. Enrique put out something similar to a player salad, including Marmot, at the end of Day 1 when choosing a chop option among those who have votes (one of the orange highlights in there). reywaS fits the "maybe" form of the classic salad there. Marmots comments don't make me feel anything. Orange

Enrique and Poison

Spoiler: show

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

[3]

I think I like this post.

lets pynch annook

Very motivating.

Not much to say. Poison's last post in there might be a decent thing to separate them, since she's effectively giving Enrique [some] responsibility for her Nanook vote. Actually meh I like that. Green

Enrique and Scirrus

Spoiler: show

Gaming mechanics IS playing mafia and the attitude that mechanics are somehow separate from the “real” game is continually baffling to me

I am this kind of player as well.
I am also historically bad at Day 0/1 reads because most of the content just looks like NAI nonsense to me.
I am envious of people with stronger insticts.
The best I can give you is how much I understand a player’s actions, and at this moment, I do not feel confused by any particular thread behavior.

I remain watching.

[1]

Who are you familiar with here? Nothing you like or dislike at all?

I'm "familiar" with almost everybody from years ago, but I only play rarely and I don't keep a very conscious direct score of people's metas / how they've behaved in other games (unless there's a glaring and pertinent difference or similarity). I prefer to just follow people's thoughts inside a game, and yeah, it's always hard to get content I care about in the early game.

Don't want this to feel like an OMGUS and I know you're not going after me and this is nothing serious yet either, but if we're going on "feel" alone then I gotta tell you your posts are my least favorite so far. By which I mean, I see you and appreciate you asking some questions, but they're usually pretty boring and I can't see you being seriously interested in the answer.

For posterity’s sake (also.... correct me if I’m wrong I have an imperfect memory...):

Scirrus had originally voted for Marmot, then Epi, then switched to JJJ after a) I did and b) JJJ switched from Epi to Nanook. Now he’s back on Marmot.

Thanks for the explanation Scirrus! I’m just making sure the stuff is on record (we usually use [ vote ] for that but it’s not mandatory). Why the switch back to Marmot though?

I don’t agree with the difference check either btw now knowing what it means. Wanna explain @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME?

The quickness of JJJ"s switch just kinda weirded me out in the moment but I dunno. @Enrique are you seeing JJJ's scum play with his recent actions? I don't think I am

Could see it either way.

that sucks. decided im a vibes guy now

chop:
jjj
lc

no chop:
splints
marmot

idk:
char
poison
grogu

cant decide:
scirrus

already chopped for all i know:
epi
reywas

Scum team is Grogu, Chardonnay, and Enrique for raisins

c y'all later gg

Gaming mechanics IS playing mafia and the attitude that mechanics are somehow separate from the “real” game is continually baffling to me

I am this kind of player as well.
I am also historically bad at Day 0/1 reads because most of the content just looks like NAI nonsense to me.
I am envious of people with stronger insticts.
The best I can give you is how much I understand a player’s actions, and at this moment, I do not feel confused by any particular thread behavior.

I remain watching.

[1]

Who are you familiar with here? Nothing you like or dislike at all?

chard seems pretty comfortable and I feel good with his posts so far

I also felt included when he pinged me! gives me the warm fuzzies

I'm ok with calling JJJ a town read, thoughts are good and pretty easy to follow and I liked his early read on @ LC so I'll sheep that

Also fine with Epi so far

----------------------------------------

fingersplints, enrique, reywas, marmot, nanook, poison, grogu

Gaming mechanics IS playing mafia and the attitude that mechanics are somehow separate from the “real” game is continually baffling to me

I am this kind of player as well.
I am also historically bad at Day 0/1 reads because most of the content just looks like NAI nonsense to me.
I am envious of people with stronger insticts.
The best I can give you is how much I understand a player’s actions, and at this moment, I do not feel confused by any particular thread behavior.

I remain watching.

[1]

Who are you familiar with here? Nothing you like or dislike at all?

I'm "familiar" with almost everybody from years ago, but I only play rarely and I don't keep a very conscious direct score of people's metas / how they've behaved in other games (unless there's a glaring and pertinent difference or similarity). I prefer to just follow people's thoughts inside a game, and yeah, it's always hard to get content I care about in the early game.

Don't want this to feel like an OMGUS and I know you're not going after me and this is nothing serious yet either, but if we're going on "feel" alone then I gotta tell you your posts are my least favorite so far. By which I mean, I see you and appreciate you asking some questions, but they're usually pretty boring and I can't see you being seriously interested in the answer

It's hard to put my finger on why but I like that Enrique's one sort of "read" is an uneasy feeling about the person asking him the question. IME mafia tend to give people answers they wanna here, and he's the only one so far who's said any sort of negative point on me. So it's not really opportunistic and feels like a genuine thought. And my questions have been somewhat generic lol, so him calling them boring made me laugh. They're mostly to help me get an idea of the group bc I don't have much experience playing here.

Think Enrique is town, liked his response to my question

Poison's posting looks fine to me, same with fingersplints

JJJ's posting also looks town and his reasoning for his actions holds up imo

Marmot's focus on Nanook and JJJ's disagreement on "the role of mechanics in mafia" seems like like busy work to me.

Nanook is nanook? idk @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME say something that will make you me TR you if you're town pls

The fact that Epi hasn't really bothered pushing anyone besides JJJ kinda concerns me

I don't know what to think of Grogu

Am I just barking up the tree here?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Poison @Long Con who do y'all want to yeet

I’m treating jay and Epi as a difference check

Why do you think marmot is mafia?

Terrible.

Epignosis is a civilian, Nanook knows it, and he is setting me up to take the fall (aided by the support he'd anticipate from Enrique).

There is zero reason to "difference check" Epi and I (if I am right that it means we're being treated as oppositely aligned). I hate it.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

@Enrique I don't really blame you for your suspicion, but I hope you'll explore one thing on your own:

What has this game thread given us that should have my attention? I have taken what is in here, absolute table scraps, and tried to make reads with it. Yes, that includes Epignosis and our little spat. He and I have done that many times before, and usually he doesn't wait until the last minute to step off it. If he's been busy then fine; that's why I have been waiting for him to say whatever he will say.

[37]

I admit I don’t have the strongest case but then again we’re in the same situation.

I don’t know what a difference check is / I assumed it meant something different (like it made you both look civ to disagree like that? idk). If someone can tell me more about what it means it might change how I read Nanook’s posts.

A difference check means that Nanook is assuming that if we yeet Epi, whatever JJJ's alignment is is the opposite of that. So JJJ is "checked" with Epi's flip

It only "works" if you can are confident that they are opposite alignments

For posterity’s sake (also.... correct me if I’m wrong I have an imperfect memory...):

Scirrus had originally voted for Marmot, then Epi, then switched to JJJ after a) I did and b) JJJ switched from Epi to Nanook. Now he’s back on Marmot.

I sure did! Wanna talk about it?

Thanks for the explanation Scirrus! I’m just making sure the stuff is on record (we usually use [ vote ] for that but it’s not mandatory). Why the switch back to Marmot though?

I don’t agree with the difference check either btw now knowing what it means. Wanna explain @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME?

oh yeah. Bc it's where my vote was before and I don't feel confident with the other options. I wouldn't be upset about a Nook lynch based on their play so far but I don't get how JJJ had a such a strong reaction to the difference check

The quickness of JJJ"s switch just kinda weirded me out in the moment but I dunno. @Enrique are you seeing JJJ's scum play with his recent actions? I don't think I am

I'll have at least a little time to get out my thoughts after work before the night deadline. See y'all then o/

Enrique is town, and I still feel JJJ is town

LC's apology seems kinda weird coming from scum like I think he'd come up with something better to say than that

I will review the rest but not sure my reads have changed all that much

But please post as much as you can up to the limit y'all!

There's a lot here; most of it doesn't mean much to me. However, there some moments that I find meaningful -- Enrique going to the trouble of highlighting Scirrus's vote movement is a good thing to dissociate them. I don't know why he feels the need to do that with his mafia teammate. Likewise it'd be goofy for him to do that as some kind of distancing trick and then fart Scirrus into a "not sure" category all on his own in a reads list. I get vibes as well that Scirrus is talking to someone that he isn't already talking to elsewhere when has asks his various questions. Green

[Long Con]

Looks like Alison replaced Chardonnay.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

fingersplints and Grogu

Spoiler: show

Ok I’ll do it too now, since I will have less time for list making later

Would I chop?

[SNIP]

Grogu:
***see below

[SNIP]

Ok, I’m having a hard time separating the players I haven’t played with in the past as I’m not familiar with how any of them play. There’s been some ok posts and there has been some fluff.

Admittedly not the greatest reads, but it’s where I’m at.

Nothing. Yellow

fingersplints and Long Con

Spoiler: show

How can people even make reads so fast? what sorcery is this?

Having reads on someone this early does seem a bit odd to me, but I don’t know if it’s odd behaviour from what I remember from JJJ. I am naturally wary of both him and LC because they are both formidable players.

Ok I’ll do it too now, since I will have less time for list making later

Would I chop?

[SNIP]

Long Con:
Probably not. I’m not seeing anything to say definitely good here, but not ready to vote for yet either.

[SNIP]

Ok, I’m having a hard time separating the players I haven’t played with in the past as I’m not familiar with how any of them play. There’s been some ok posts and there has been some fluff.

Admittedly not the greatest reads, but it’s where I’m at.

Close to nothing. I am a bit surprised at that since splints and LC are both long-time Syndicats that haven't played together in years. I won't make too many assumptions. Yellow

fingersplints and Marmot

Spoiler: show

What is new to you right now and what hasn't changed?

In regards to the rules and what not. Most are as I remember however I haven’t played a lot where info dropping/role claiming is allowed.

I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

Ok I’ll do it too now, since I will have less time for list making later

Would I chop?

[SNIP]

Marmot:
Probably not. As mentioned, that many early votes make me nervous.

[SNIP]

Ok, I’m having a hard time separating the players I haven’t played with in the past as I’m not familiar with how any of them play. There’s been some ok posts and there has been some fluff.

Admittedly not the greatest reads, but it’s where I’m at.

Still putting my kid to bed, but I’ll be around.

Marmot still has two votes. So if his vanilla civvie role is to be believed, then someone else needs a couple votes still.

I’m going to vote Epignosis as well as I don’t really want to throw away my vote on reywas who may get replaced if they continue not to show up. I’ll still hear him out if he wants to explain his behaviour so far in the thread, but between him and Marmot I feel worse about him right now

Hello all, glad to see the game has started. I haven’t had a chance to read everything yet, but have done some quick skimming. A lot is how I remember, but some will take a little getting used to.

What is new to you right now and what hasn't changed?


@Enrique SR = scumread

I highlighted one thing in orange that looks problematic at face value. I don't feel a ton from it; call it Yellow

fingersplints and Poison

Spoiler: show

How can people even make reads so fast? what sorcery is this?

Having reads on someone this early does seem a bit odd to me, but I don’t know if it’s odd behaviour from what I remember from JJJ. I am naturally wary of both him and LC because they are both formidable players.

How do you plan to approach this game then?

Same as I’ve always done, and if/when the need for info/role in thread comes then deal with it then. I don’t have any tactics for how to best put that info in the thread, but I want to help the best I can. So I guess as I said, we will see when it comes up.

Ok I’ll do it too now, since I will have less time for list making later

Would I chop?

[SNIP]

Poison:
***see below

[SNIP]

Ok, I’m having a hard time separating the players I haven’t played with in the past as I’m not familiar with how any of them play. There’s been some ok posts and there has been some fluff.

Admittedly not the greatest reads, but it’s where I’m at.

@Poison, the “nothing” tier is meant to depict “I feel nothing about their posts that suggests to me they are civilians”. Surely some of them are civilians; I haven’t seen it yet.

Epi hurled his poo at me and that’s fine. I’ll see what he does with it and determine how I feel.

Have you guys done this before?

I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

I see. What are your views on Scirrus and chard?

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

[3]

I think I like this post.

I don’t have an opinion on them yet.

How can people even make reads so fast? what sorcery is this?

Having reads on someone this early does seem a bit odd to me, but I don’t know if it’s odd behaviour from what I remember from JJJ. I am naturally wary of both him and LC because they are both formidable players.

Odd is not the right word, impressive might be.

What is new to you right now and what hasn't changed?

In regards to the rules and what not. Most are as I remember however I haven’t played a lot where info dropping/role claiming is allowed.

How do you plan to approach this game then?

I really don’t know how I feel about nanook’s posts. I just reread them and I don’t feel there is much substance there. I’ve never played with this player before is that common?

I won't say there aint no substance, but I think he usually plays like this.

This one's going to be hard to articulate, because at face value it might not look like much. But I think these two players look like they've met for the first time in this game thread, and that's a good thing. Green

fingersplints and Scirrus

Spoiler: show

Ok I’ll do it too now, since I will have less time for list making later

Would I chop?

[SNIP]

Scirrus:
***see below

Ok, I’m having a hard time separating the players I haven’t played with in the past as I’m not familiar with how any of them play. There’s been some ok posts and there has been some fluff.

Admittedly not the greatest reads, but it’s where I’m at.

I see. What are your views on Scirrus and chard?

I don’t have an opinion on them yet.

How can people even make reads so fast? what sorcery is this?

Having reads on someone this early does seem a bit odd to me, but I don’t know if it’s odd behaviour from what I remember from JJJ. I am naturally wary of both him and LC because they are both formidable players.

Is there anything else you remember about them?

For what it's worth, I don't think JJJ having a read this early is too strange bc it's grounded in something specific that he explained which makes *enough* sense to me. And if what he said about LC's meta isn't true, I'd imagine someone else who's played a lot with him would chime in.

@Poison what do you think of JJJ's read on LC?

I'm establishing my own towncore of players not in a traditional towncore.

ooh pick me! pick me!

This is going to be a fun experience. I signed up for lot of games haha. Wish me luck

Baby Yolo

Anyway I've stared at the game's 4 posts for a while and barely have any other reads. Long Con is a civilian read. If I squeeze hard enough I could say that for fingersplints and Poison too. A game with these post restrictions might require extra squeezing, so hopefully my gut reads aren't garbage.

Why for fingersplints and poison? is it meta related? i don't care if it's weak

chard seems pretty comfortable and I feel good with his posts so far

I also felt included when he pinged me! gives me the warm fuzzies

I'm ok with calling JJJ a town read, thoughts are good and pretty easy to follow and I liked his early read on @ LC so I'll sheep that

Also fine with Epi so far

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fingersplints, enrique, reywas, marmot, nanook, poison, grogu

@chardonnay, you said you don’t find Epignosis suspicious. Do you find him trustworthy?

@Grogu, what do you like about Marmot?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, are you alive?

@Poison and @Scirrus

Could you talk a bit more about your views on Chardonnay? I ask because despite their relatively thick posts, I haven’t felt much of anything from them. Each of you seems to feel something good.

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Honestly dunno about Chard. I mostly just thought he was being all loose and carefree, which i tend to associate more with town. The fact that he hasn't posted since then doesn't make me feel as good. I'm not really sure which of reads are "SRS" or not so there's that.

His read or shade on fingersplints seems the most "real" or serious out of all his reads, if i think about it. And i don't really agree with that one, so /shrug

Think Enrique is town, liked his response to my question

Poison's posting looks fine to me, same with fingersplints

JJJ's posting also looks town and his reasoning for his actions holds up imo

Marmot's focus on Nanook and JJJ's disagreement on "the role of mechanics in mafia" seems like like busy work to me.

Nanook is nanook? idk @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME say something that will make you me TR you if you're town pls

The fact that Epi hasn't really bothered pushing anyone besides JJJ kinda concerns me

I don't know what to think of Grogu

It's a bit of a scattered progression from Scirrus, and splints didn't say much. I don't think it's a bad look really, but still Yellow

Grogu and Long Con

Spoiler: show

It's a Rick Roll-esque fakeout that made Grogu think the game had started, I think.

This is the only thing. LC's explanation for Grogu's Rickroll mention was actually incorrect, so maybe that means no BTSC. I don't think I'm going there. Yellow

Grogu and Poison

Spoiler: show

This is going to be a fun experience. I signed up for lot of games haha. Wish me luck

THAT'S WHY. I FELT LIKE SEEING YOU EVERYWHERE.

Nothing. Yellow

Grogu and Scirrus

Spoiler: show

First! I never had this honor. ToWn

At first, one might see this as a town claim,


H O W E V E R

Lettuce take a look at which letter is capitalized beside the obvious T

It is:

W

as in

W O L F


Clever slip there buddy

Got one of them down, you can thank me all later

Scum team is Grogu, Chardonnay, and Enrique for raisins

c y'all later gg

chard seems pretty comfortable and I feel good with his posts so far

I also felt included when he pinged me! gives me the warm fuzzies

I'm ok with calling JJJ a town read, thoughts are good and pretty easy to follow and I liked his early read on @ LC so I'll sheep that

Also fine with Epi so far

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fingersplints, enrique, reywas, marmot, nanook, poison, grogu

Think Enrique is town, liked his response to my question

Poison's posting looks fine to me, same with fingersplints

JJJ's posting also looks town and his reasoning for his actions holds up imo

Marmot's focus on Nanook and JJJ's disagreement on "the role of mechanics in mafia" seems like like busy work to me.

Nanook is nanook? idk @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME say something that will make you me TR you if you're town pls

The fact that Epi hasn't really bothered pushing anyone besides JJJ kinda concerns me

I don't know what to think of Grogu

Scirrus was a bit cheeky with Grogu, called him mafia, and then did nothing more. I feel nothing. Yellow

Long Con and Marmot

Absolutely nothing. Surprising again. LC just hasn't been around or talked about anything, and in the case of two Syndicate vets it was mutual (splints/Marmot). Yellow


Long Con and Poison

Spoiler: show

Post limits are so Anti-poison.

Ay there mates!

and we don't want cow but we want PENGUINS!!!!!!!

Penguins are Bay!

Goof morning! I'll catch up now.

Goof morning.

its not a SR but poisen not longer having that dancing chibi dancing character is throwing me off big time.

i may have a tendency to wanna SR ppl with pics of cute animals as thier avies

eh, you remember dancing bald chibi poison with her round tummy ? I don't remember playing with you though?

I have a TMI civilian read on Long Con. I just clicked around a decent pile of recent/semi-recent games. Mafia-aligned Long Con tended to be more to-the-point on Days 0, either by digging into game-relevant "solving" or just making stilted fluff posts. When he was a civilian he tended to be more willing to goof around, was more visibly at ease with his life, and seemed less stilted.

Space Invaders is one exception where as a civilian he made game-relevant posts right away, though he entered the game with someone already calling for his head (dunya) before he'd even posted.

How can people even make reads so fast? what sorcery is this?

What is new to you right now and what hasn't changed?

In regards to the rules and what not. Most are as I remember however I haven’t played a lot where info dropping/role claiming is allowed.

How do you plan to approach this game then?

You might think I would intend to try and be less serious when I do roll scum, but all I want to do now is be more stilted and less goofy in my town openings.

this gave me good vibes when I first read it, but when i read it a second time I am like "Hmmmmmm..... should I trust LC so easily?"

This is going to be a fun experience. I signed up for lot of games haha. Wish me luck

THAT'S WHY. I FELT LIKE SEEING YOU EVERYWHERE.

I really don’t know how I feel about nanook’s posts. I just reread them and I don’t feel there is much substance there. I’ve never played with this player before is that common?

I won't say there aint no substance, but I think he usually plays like this.

Goof morning! I'll catch up now.

Goof morning.

I'm sleepy okay!!!??

It's a bit chummy both ways. Otherwise it's pretty much nothing. Maybe it's worth note that Poison's comment about fast I came up with a Day 0 read was about Long Con. Meh. Yellow

Long Con and Scirrus

Spoiler: show

I'll sheep JJJ. [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Most of what I have read was JJJ vs Epi, and I am going town-town for that for now.

Do you think their exchange would have went down differently if one/both of them were mafia?

Yes.

Long Con is town for posting Wall-E. Great movie, big fan.

I have a TMI civilian read on Long Con. I just clicked around a decent pile of recent/semi-recent games. Mafia-aligned Long Con tended to be more to-the-point on Days 0, either by digging into game-relevant "solving" or just making stilted fluff posts. When he was a civilian he tended to be more willing to goof around, was more visibly at ease with his life, and seemed less stilted.

Space Invaders is one exception where as a civilian he made game-relevant posts right away, though he entered the game with someone already calling for his head (dunya) before he'd even posted.

wait why do you say this is TMI?

chard seems pretty comfortable and I feel good with his posts so far

I also felt included when he pinged me! gives me the warm fuzzies

I'm ok with calling JJJ a town read, thoughts are good and pretty easy to follow and I liked his early read on @ LC so I'll sheep that

Also fine with Epi so far

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fingersplints, enrique, reywas, marmot, nanook, poison, grogu

Am I just barking up the tree here?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Poison @Long Con who do y'all want to yeet

Bunch of wet noodles, call it Yellow

Marmot and Poison

Spoiler: show

I'll make a huge impact with this post.

You've left a crater in my heart. A crater-sized impact

I must be going through changes, because somehow ten posts sounds like a lot right now.

Hi Mafia people. Hello. Let's do good and be real good and have a good time doing good.

I look forward to the day when you can make a single post each day, and still manage to convey more than nutella does in 300 posts.

ouch.

#300posterslivesmatter

Good luck making it to 300 posts this game!!!

well good luck to Y'all Wallies are on the way!

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable.

Eh? What did I say I was uncomfortable about? Are you referring to my opener thing about post count? It’s not uncomfortable to make 20 posts

Your takes on the votes on you confuse me. I don’t think any of the three of us explained much of anything; we just threw votes down because why not.

But chardonnay and Scirrus came to reasonable “conclusions” while I “leave something to be desired”. I’m going to need you to expand if you could.

I don’t really care that chardonnay was in my “nothings”. So what.

I'm still not sure if I understood anything on the above topic.

Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

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I think I like this post.

There's not much. Poison did lend support to Enrique's defense of/explanation for Marmot, so that's something. Whatever, Yellow

Marmot and Scirrus

Spoiler: show

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

What reasonable conclusions are these? I just sheeped Chard bc I had no read on you and was bored.

Why is JJJ's vote on you scummier than mine?

Would you have suspected Nanook to have be more involved in the game by now?

You sheeped chard yes, but I liked the manner in which you did it tone-wise

I liked less the manner that JJJ did it. Considering the thoughts he'd put into players to that point, he'd not put much into my slot.

Per Nanook, maybe slightly, but I voted Epi over him because I did expect Epignosis to be more involved, but obviously I'm wrong on Nanook, and probably wrong on Epi


* * * * *

Does anyone have a reason that Epignosis should not be chopped today?

@Scirrus where are you at on Marmot at this point?

@Long Con what's up bruddaman

*exasperated shrug*

I'm glad we have open nights.

Ok so I don't find Marmots focus and questions towny at all and I have no idea why he townreads me

But I'm trying to think about the claim thing bc I missed upon my first readthrough. Do you find it unlikely that the vanilla claim could be some sort of gambit? Idk if that's something people do here. I've seen vanilla town fakeclaim PR's to get out of a yeet but would this be a good strategy the other way around? Like, say Marmot was mafia and claims later on that he's a PR and just fakeclaimed vanilla to avoid getting NK'd or something. Is that a tactic that you don't really see flying?

I'm mostly entertaining this bc I don't find most of his play towny

As evidenced by your read of me, I don't need to claim VT to avoid an NK.


* * * * *


I think there were three wagons on Day 1, and JJJ was involved in all of them, to different extents. This is just an observation. I expect this from him at either alignment. Downside is, it does look like all three of us are town, so if JJJ's town too, he's got some re-reading to do.

I'm establishing my own towncore of players not in a traditional towncore.

ooh pick me! pick me!

This is going to be a fun experience. I signed up for lot of games haha. Wish me luck

Baby Yolo

Anyway I've stared at the game's 4 posts for a while and barely have any other reads. Long Con is a civilian read. If I squeeze hard enough I could say that for fingersplints and Poison too. A game with these post restrictions might require extra squeezing, so hopefully my gut reads aren't garbage.

Why for fingersplints and poison? is it meta related? i don't care if it's weak

@Scirrus

Support my marmot push out of the kindness of your heart?

I kno you maybe SR me or something, (idk whats real and whats not), but we can totally support each other in a D1 push right?

-/--/-/-/-/

@Enrique

i dont want to make up tags, but where do you fall on that chart you ref''d?

Also support my marmot wagon?

I like your tenacity! OK!

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

chard seems pretty comfortable and I feel good with his posts so far

I also felt included when he pinged me! gives me the warm fuzzies

I'm ok with calling JJJ a town read, thoughts are good and pretty easy to follow and I liked his early read on @ LC so I'll sheep that

Also fine with Epi so far

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fingersplints, enrique, reywas, marmot, nanook, poison, grogu

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

What reasonable conclusions are these? I just sheeped Chard bc I had no read on you and was bored.

Why is JJJ's vote on you scummier than mine?

Would you have suspected Nanook to have be more involved in the game by now?

Think Enrique is town, liked his response to my question

Poison's posting looks fine to me, same with fingersplints

JJJ's posting also looks town and his reasoning for his actions holds up imo

Marmot's focus on Nanook and JJJ's disagreement on "the role of mechanics in mafia" seems like like busy work to me.

Nanook is nanook? idk @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME say something that will make you me TR you if you're town pls

The fact that Epi hasn't really bothered pushing anyone besides JJJ kinda concerns me

I don't know what to think of Grogu

Does anyone have a reason that Epignosis should not be chopped today?

@Scirrus where are you at on Marmot at this point?

@Long Con what's up bruddaman

*exasperated shrug*

I'm glad we have open nights.

Ok so I don't find Marmots focus and questions towny at all and I have no idea why he townreads me

But I'm trying to think about the claim thing bc I missed upon my first readthrough. Do you find it unlikely that the vanilla claim could be some sort of gambit? Idk if that's something people do here. I've seen vanilla town fakeclaim PR's to get out of a yeet but would this be a good strategy the other way around? Like, say Marmot was mafia and claims later on that he's a PR and just fakeclaimed vanilla to avoid getting NK'd or something. Is that a tactic that you don't really see flying?

I'm mostly entertaining this bc I don't find most of his play towny

Marmot is definitely mafia. I feel that very strongly just reading these exchanges. And I don't mean that to suggest Scirrus is connected to him -- indeed, it was Scirrus prodding Marmot about how he handled the votes he took that really secured my read to whatever's the closest JJJ analog to "lock mafia". I liked the tone of your vote for me but not JJJ's -- that's not going to work here, my rodent friend.

As for the actual interaction of these two, I don't think they look like teammates. Scirrus would have probably chopped Marmot D1 had it not been for the consensus moving toward Epi and then Nanook -- that's speculative of me, but I believe it. d i f f e r e n c e - c h e c k Green

Scirrus and Poison

Spoiler: show

its not a SR but poisen not longer having that dancing chibi dancing character is throwing me off big time.

i may have a tendency to wanna SR ppl with pics of cute animals as thier avies

Why do you think that is? I come from a site where one of the regular players often suspects that people change their avi's to cute characters in order to be townread, although personally I haven't seen that actually be a thing

How can people even make reads so fast? what sorcery is this?

Having reads on someone this early does seem a bit odd to me, but I don’t know if it’s odd behaviour from what I remember from JJJ. I am naturally wary of both him and LC because they are both formidable players.

Is there anything else you remember about them?

For what it's worth, I don't think JJJ having a read this early is too strange bc it's grounded in something specific that he explained which makes *enough* sense to me. And if what he said about LC's meta isn't true, I'd imagine someone else who's played a lot with him would chime in.

@Poison what do you think of JJJ's read on LC?

I'm establishing my own towncore of players not in a traditional towncore.

ooh pick me! pick me!

This is going to be a fun experience. I signed up for lot of games haha. Wish me luck

Baby Yolo

Anyway I've stared at the game's 4 posts for a while and barely have any other reads. Long Con is a civilian read. If I squeeze hard enough I could say that for fingersplints and Poison too. A game with these post restrictions might require extra squeezing, so hopefully my gut reads aren't garbage.

Why for fingersplints and poison? is it meta related? i don't care if it's weak

Because it amused me for one tiny fleeting moment of this life to do so

@Scirrus i feel nothing about Jjj's post honestly, that is NAI to me.

Is there anyone here that you can usually get a read on pretty early?

chard seems pretty comfortable and I feel good with his posts so far

I also felt included when he pinged me! gives me the warm fuzzies

I'm ok with calling JJJ a town read, thoughts are good and pretty easy to follow and I liked his early read on @ LC so I'll sheep that

Also fine with Epi so far

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fingersplints, enrique, reywas, marmot, nanook, poison, grogu

Think Enrique is town, liked his response to my question

Poison's posting looks fine to me, same with fingersplints

JJJ's posting also looks town and his reasoning for his actions holds up imo

Marmot's focus on Nanook and JJJ's disagreement on "the role of mechanics in mafia" seems like like busy work to me.

Nanook is nanook? idk @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME say something that will make you me TR you if you're town pls

The fact that Epi hasn't really bothered pushing anyone besides JJJ kinda concerns me

I don't know what to think of Grogu

Am I just barking up the tree here?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Poison @Long Con who do y'all want to yeet

@Scirrus i feel nothing about Jjj's post honestly, that is NAI to me.

First! I never had this honor. ToWn

At first, one might see this as a town claim,


H O W E V E R

Lettuce take a look at which letter is capitalized beside the obvious T

It is:

W

as in

W O L F


Clever slip there buddy

Got one of them down, you can thank me all later

So

This much effort and deduction of posts might look like TOWN.

HOWEVER

It is:

WOLF which is in size 150.

Clever slip there buddy (X2)

Got Two of them down, you can thank me all later.

@Poison what do you think of JJJ's read on LC?

I don't really think anything of it.

ooh pick me! pick me!

this is giving me town vibes. the faintest but i can still feel the vibe.

Is there anyone here that you can usually get a read on pretty early?

I can't even read my own mind this early a game lol.

Gaming mechanics IS playing mafia and the attitude that mechanics are somehow separate from the “real” game is continually baffling to me

I am this kind of player as well.
I am also historically bad at Day 0/1 reads because most of the content just looks like NAI nonsense to me.
I am envious of people with stronger insticts.
The best I can give you is how much I understand a player’s actions, and at this moment, I do not feel confused by any particular thread behavior.

I remain watching.

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Who are you familiar with here? Nothing you like or dislike at all?

on a second thought, I'm liking you so far.

I HATE POST LIMITS.
So far I like Chard and Scirrusu ig
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I see some posts about my “carefully worded posts”. I don’t think they are very carefully worded, but I also haven’t played in I think 5 years, so maybe they naturally are. I’m not mafia so I don’t have anything to hide

So some other thoughts. Epignosis vs JJJ seemed a bit forced almost to me. But I have mostly good vibes from JJJ, and I almost always get bad vibes every time I’ve played with Epi, so I think they might have just been trying to stir up conversation with how quickly it was abandoned.
I feel uncomfortable with early bandwagons, so while I’m fairly neutral on Marmot at this point, I’m not sure I’d want to vote there as the points on him seem quite flimsy.

I see that there is a “no eviction” option on the poll. I need to read further to figure out what that is about.
I’m going to place a vote for reywaS right now, because I like to be able to see the poll without clicking view poll and as hopefully incentive to show up and post.

I see. What are your views on Scirrus and chard?

I like the general vibes of these posts. I think I can follow the thread of thought for both of them as they explore one another with direct exchanges. This reminds me of splints/Poison in that it feels like their life together in this game exists solely within this game thread. That may be vague, but it's what I feel. Green

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[JaggedJimmyJay]

Green - doubt they're mafia teammates
Yellow - compatible as mafia teammates
Orange - seem especially compatible as mafia teammates

Okee dokee here's the compiled chart. Note: I skipped Epignosis, as that may work itself out and I don't have all day. I defaulted everyone's interactions with reywaS to yellow. There's just nothing to say about that slot.

I found this a lot more fruitful for my view of the game than I expected it to be. This thread may be bare bones, but there's plenty of meaningful stuff around here to talk about:

~ As I mentioned in my previous post, I think Marmot is a mafioso. That may be my strongest read in the game, stronger than any of my town reads save perhaps Epignosis. He's compatible with nearly everyone, has the only orange block, and just looks terrible to me at face value. Among the players who are broadly compatible with the field (fingersplints, Grogu, Long Con, reywaS), he is the only one that has actually made numerous posts and been involved (exception of splints, whose reads simply trend toward low confidence). So it's not default in Marmot's case. He just fits.

~ I don't figure Scirrus is a mafioso. That was already my perspective, and this strengthens it. He fits only with the exact list of defaults I just listed, and nearly everyone fits with them. He does not fit with Marmot in my view. I'd love to hear @Alison's perspective of this in particular, given that you've voiced suspicion of Scirrus since arriving.

~ Alisonnay and Poison are in a similarly decent position, albeit less confidently so. Alison is a bad fit with Marmot, so that's her best look. Poison's fits are largely default but they include Marmot. At face value I think Poison looks town. Alison is too early judge at face value for me -- no immediate major gripes. That Scirrus read is what interests me.

~ Enrique has the only orange I was comfortable with, alongside Marmot. It could be. I will appreciate any feedback I can get on that interaction. Marmot is compatible all over the place, so Enrique doesn't have to be a teammate. Let's talk about it.

~ I didn't call Grogu/Marmot orange, but I was tempted to. Their connection is a rather blatant one.

~ If you suspect me for whatever reason, fine, get your rocks off. Please don't ignore my work though, because it is genuine and I want to talk about it. Thank you.

Night ends in 3 hours, and I have 10 posts left to talk about stuff. Come one come all.

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[Marmot]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I appreciate your efforts to add emojis, but I won't be using that sacrilegious thing. Mafia families don't have werewolves in them.

Anyway, how about some of those words of yours wherein you translate thoughts from your mind to digital text that I may perceive myself and interpret. What's on your mind?

[Marmot]

What I was doing was posting a werewolf in response to your case on me, which concludes that I'm wolf. Anyway, I appreciate the effort, although that amount at this point in the game does seem like busy work, as someone else pointed out. The thing I don't understand is why you didn't factor Alison's roleclaim into your reads, but you did for Epi. Can you talk about that one?


How did you conclude that I was most likely wolf?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What I was doing was posting a werewolf in response to your case on me, which concludes that I'm wolf. Anyway, I appreciate the effort, although that amount at this point in the game does seem like busy work, as someone else pointed out. The thing I don't understand is why you didn't factor Alison's roleclaim into your reads, but you did for Epi. Can you talk about that one?


How did you conclude that I was most likely wolf?

I don't care about role claims very much in a G-Man game. I just don't give a crap. Anyone can be anything, and anything can be any alignment (within reason, and G-Man's reason is broad). Alison claimed in the night phase. The claim exists. I have exactly nothing else to say about it.

I believe Epignosis is a civilian for reasons separate from his claim. That shit still means little to me. His behavior in this night phase secured my read. He might also end up dead. All of that makes analyzing him feel less useful to me. I can't spend all night doing this, so any opportunity to conserve time is one I'll take.

Alison is not someone I can so confidently read at this point. She replaced chardonnay, who was in my narrowest POE pool, and I am not inclined to throw her into the "whatever" pile right now while I view her slot as one that needs more immediate sorting regardless of her claim.

Basic question for you:

Why was the tone of Scirrus's vote for you good, and mine was not good? Why did you call it "coming to a good conclusion" or whatever you said before you were prodded to clarify it as "tone"? That just screams b/s to me. Scirrus and I basically did the same thing.

[Epignosis]

My reaction to receiving votes yesterday and claiming was unnecessary at best and I should explain myself. And perhaps apologize.

Until today, I was thinking "three non-vanilla roles" maximum. In my head I was in a heist.

When I got a non-vanilla role, I thought, "Okay, for once I have to try not to get Night killed."

So when I witnessed a half dozen votes on me, I flipped the desk and claimed and said "Good luck now "

That's where my head was.

Sorry for being a little bitch.