U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Game Over

[Long Con]

You know what's lame? dunya never clarified what this means.

My feline instincts told me.

But let's look at Colin more now that Eloh flipped scum and nutella flipped civ.

Then Scotty (who I think could be on team nova independent from Colin and Eloh and Lilifer)

And whoever asked if there's more than 2 3ps this game. Yeah I think there are. Also DDL where is he??? No one claims survivor if they're not survivor. That's suicide.

But I even played with a kitty today, I've got the scratched up hand to prove it

Why is claiming survivor suicide?

Claiming 3p in a game like this I meant is suicide.

To me, if someone claims Indy Survivor role and is universally believed, they are as safe as they can be. They've already won the game. Civs don't need to lynch them, and baddies don't need to kill them.

[Long Con]

iNH and motel room are the baddies if the game is easy

If the game is hard then it's somebody else...

I'll be around more on Monday tbh

#turbupthoughts

Three dead from ISIS Cream and one dead from Al-Pieda. Assuming four players per baddie team, that's still four left to eliminate. So I guess that makes this a hard game.

[speedchuck]

I wouldn't clear either of them

That's fair, any particular reason why, or is it that we just plain might be bad?

The insanification could be used as an excuse not to hunt too hard. Nobody would lynch an insanified person for their contributions.

Also WIFOM, like they said. Insanification isn't a huge setback for scum.

And two scumteams.

The first point is the main exception, but all things considered I think the connection is not useful

[speedchuck]

Some of the baddies might be vanishes. I doubt it is 4/13

[Turnip Head]

I've still got my eye on Zephy too. A smooth, calculated talker from what I see. Those types are usually trouble

[ColinIsCool]

I wouldn't clear either of them

That's fair, any particular reason why, or is it that we just plain might be bad?

The insanification could be used as an excuse not to hunt too hard. Nobody would lynch an insanified person for their contributions.

Also WIFOM, like they said. Insanification isn't a huge setback for scum.

And two scumteams.

The first point is the main exception, but all things considered I think the connection is not useful

Fair all around but I only meant clearing them from Scotty’s team, not the other one

[ColinIsCool]

Hmm okay theb can we agree to disagree on how we assess the situation?

I mean ok, but I really wish you'd pick my brain apart and start seeing things my way, mr. stubborn i'm too good for dunya's theories

I just have my own way of processing things that I find difficult to vocalize effectively, tbh. I see how you're looking for a motive, and I guess my point is that a motive is not always readily eaay to see with so many variables. So at the end of the day I mostly go by gut feel. And my gut says Elo is town and someone else hit speed.

My drunk vote on TH was largely inspired by this interaction/others like it where he is defending Eloh as well as a general inability to recall town behavior, but I was drunk, so I’m not sold on it.

[Long Con]

Hmm okay theb can we agree to disagree on how we assess the situation?

I mean ok, but I really wish you'd pick my brain apart and start seeing things my way, mr. stubborn i'm too good for dunya's theories

I just have my own way of processing things that I find difficult to vocalize effectively, tbh. I see how you're looking for a motive, and I guess my point is that a motive is not always readily eaay to see with so many variables. So at the end of the day I mostly go by gut feel. And my gut says Elo is town and someone else hit speed.

My drunk vote on TH was largely inspired by this interaction/others like it where he is defending Eloh as well as a general inability to recall town behavior, but I was drunk, so I’m not sold on it.

His defense of Eloh is bleh to read, but his original quote here is what my gut finds more suspicious. Placating words, agree to disagree... I dunno.

[Turnip Head]

I agreed to disagree about Elo because I was CLEARLY in the minority there. I also thought she'd live past the lynch, so yeah.

[Turnip Head]

In hindsight I wish I'd been more willing to change my read on Elo but I'm stubborn. Oh welk. Something to reflect on and improve, mayhaps

[Long Con]

I'm going to plunk a li'l vote right down on Zephyrus for now. [VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

[Epignosis]

I try to read everything, but this is just a bunch of nothing. Sorry. I'm just going to do my thing.

[Long Con]

Although...it felt like Zeph's post here

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Okay. So this Eloh situation. Generally, when someone claims, I think that believing them is preferable to straight up lynching them so that you can give them a chance to prove their role, and, in this case, lynching Eloh is the only way to prove it. I personally buy the tardigrade story, but I don't understand the defeatist attitude. The whole point of defending, of convincing people not to lynch you, is stupid if you supposedly don't die. Yes, other people could be lynched instead, but we still get information from you not dying, so it's not completely useless. Overall, a scummy look to me.
That being said, I'm not going to switch over to her, because Colin still smells fishy to me.

Scum are going to have such an easy time bandwagoning on Eloh with a lead like that for now, no matter what her alignment is. We can do more.

I’m not saying Eloh directly picked her role. But her role had an obvious Mafia connotation, IF it is that. Certain roles in the game probably do. Mine does. So it’s possible she’s telling the truth. It doesn’t stop her from being scum, and I never said it did.

Eloh is very far away from a townread for me, so go ahead and lynch her. But let’s not just have 25 people on one wagon, right? That’s as much a wasted day as any.

[VOTE: ELOHCIN] aubergine

Character development at its finest.
1) "Scum can easily bandwagon Eloh, so try not to do it."
2) "She looks scum to me, but I'm not going to lynch her just yet."
3) "It appears this lynch is going to happen, better get on while I still can."
The use of stuff like "We can do more" and "That's as much a wasted day as any" to try and suggest that we aren't trying hard enough and that the lynch will not help us at all is really scummy to me, so I'm sticking with lynching Colin.

was some fancy footwork distancing from Elohcin... but if she only has one teammate left, maybe we should be looking at the Elohcin voters for likely Al-Pieda members.

nutella colonialbob Jack Lunalee Long Con Spacedaisy Scotty

That puts Lunalee in the spotlight for me.

[ColinIsCool]

I really haven’t bought into the Lunalee lynches so far this game, but she admittedly could be flying under my radar and fooling the hell out of me. I wonder what scum have said about her

[ColinIsCool]

It’s quiet now and I know I’ve been doing a lot of asking of others the past few days but I’m hoping to really dig into scum ISOs and attempt some interactive analyses of who’s left tomorrow night. Anybody else who wants to dig in too, feel free in the meantime

[Turnip Head]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] Yeah it sorta feels like Zephy is tiptoeing around the thread, if that evokes the right image. Like Zephy is playing the game but not inside of the game.

[Turnip Head]

I try to read everything, but this is just a bunch of nothing. Sorry. I'm just going to do my thing.

And what is that exactly

[Turnip Head]

omg. TH is the vanisher.

it makes sense now

he picked juliets, sig and kyle.

his favorite people! you took juliets from me, she was mine, TH!

Dunya has vanished without a trace.

[Long Con]

omg. TH is the vanisher.

it makes sense now

he picked juliets, sig and kyle.

his favorite people! you took juliets from me, she was mine, TH!

Dunya has vanished without a trace.

s that a confession?

[Turnip Head]

I only confess that my true role is really really worthless.

[Long Con]

What is it?

[Turnip Head]

What is it?

It won't be any fun if I tell you...

Want me to use it on you later?

[ColinIsCool]

I’m strongly considering a policy lynch of an inactive today if nothing else

[Turnip Head]

I’m strongly considering a policy lynch of an inactive today if nothing else

Slightly sketchy Colin, don't we have a trigger happy mod-killing MacDougall machine for that?

Not that I have much better ideas or anything but like still

[Turnip Head]

Can we lynch Sloonei?

[Lunalee]

What's happin' fam?

[Turnip Head]

I bet Colin is the vanisher.

[ColinIsCool]

I’m strongly considering a policy lynch of an inactive today if nothing else

Slightly sketchy Colin, don't we have a trigger happy mod-killing MacDougall machine for that?

Not that I have much better ideas or anything but like still

Yeah but Mac didn’t do it last time he said he would iirc

[Turnip Head]

yeah ur bad dude

:-/

[ColinIsCool]

Turbup Head, I swear to you I am as civ as can be.

[ColinIsCool]

Build a case on me at least. We need more activity in here & I can handle it, my ISO is as spotless as my driving record (which is to say mostly)

[Turnip Head]

Lynches have been going town's way, we've been bleeding numbers at night, and Colin is "strongly considering a policy lynch of an inactive" endquote



Let me get a nibble of this delicious HMMMM & CHEESE sandwich

[ColinIsCool]

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to guess that in a game of this size and level of clusterfuckery that at least one scum is hiding out.

[Turnip Head]

Turbup Head, I swear to you I am as civ as can be.

<3

[Lunalee]

So I want to investigate Lapluie today. I remember she was so close to being mod-killed for inactivity on night 2, and then popped into the thread just in time to survive. It would make sense that she's scum, and her teammates contacted her before she could be mod-killed.

[Turnip Head]

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to guess that in a game of this size and level of clusterfuckery that at least one scum is hiding out.

It's just not the direction I'd expect from someone who I previously felt was supatowning.

[Turnip Head]

And I say "someone" but I really mean "Colin specifically as I was reading him in real time"

[ColinIsCool]

Yeah me neither I guess. I’m just unable to ISO now, and I’m a very reactive player sooooo with nothing going on I’m just spitballing different things.

[Turnip Head]

Yeah I can see you reacting to me right now

Mmhmm

Mm yeah

[Turnip Head]

Mmmm yeah boi

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine for now lol

[Turnip Head]

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine for now lol

[lapluie]

So I want to investigate Lapluie today. I remember she was so close to being mod-killed for inactivity on night 2, and then popped into the thread just in time to survive. It would make sense that she's scum, and her teammates contacted her before she could be mod-killed.

no sweetie, the host himself spared my life! I have receipts

[ColinIsCool]

I’m going to get tunneled to death soon aren’t I

[wolbre04]

So I want to investigate Lapluie today. I remember she was so close to being mod-killed for inactivity on night 2, and then popped into the thread just in time to survive. It would make sense that she's scum, and her teammates contacted her before she could be mod-killed.

no sweetie, the host himself spared my life! I have receipts

She got the receipts right here

[Long Con]

Lunalee didn't mention nova all that much, but it wasn't zero times.

She reiterates in large font some names dunya dropped before she disappeared:

nutella wasn't gonna get lynched, it was a lost cause at that point.

more excuses, quick development.

not buying it.

DDL and nova next at some point I guess. they are my biggest pings after those 3 (colin, nutella, eloh)

Dunya's last suspects before the went comatose. Hmmmm

I think that looks pretty good on Luna to not be on nova's team in some regards, although it's a little like leftover player salad.

She also does a Nova ISO analysis where all the interactions end up being "Civ" results, which is not ideal:

Posts:

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Nova arrives to the party fashionably late as a "cool guy"

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[VOTE: nova] aubergine

are you lynching a no-poster today?

That’s the plan.

That’s always the plan.

If he shows up, then I look at most suspicious. But I’m shit at reading people day 1 anyway soooo

What's up? I'm here

What do you have to say for yourself?

I'm a cool guy

Asks some useless questions about colin:

What do you have to say about Golden, Jimbo?

Very little. I had some mild suspicion of him stemming from his interaction with Colin.

What exactly in his interaction with Colin piqued your scumdar?

Also, what do you make of Colin from the same interaction?

Nova is confused by Colin, rubbed wrong by Golden, then shifts the attention to dunya:

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What do you have to say about Golden, Jimbo?

Very little. I had some mild suspicion of him stemming from his interaction with Colin.

What exactly in his interaction with Colin piqued your scumdar?

Also, what do you make of Colin from the same interaction?

I felt their argument was more semantic than substantive, and Golden's accusations that Colin was misrepresenting him fell flat with me.

I have no issue with Colin to this point.

What are your own reads on both?

Overall, I like both of them so far. Golden more than Coling, though. Townies that are calling out what they see and aren't scared of being wrong. I don't enjoy much the mechanical aspect of solving the game since it's very NAI for me, but they seem to be taking it to heart.

One thing about Colin, though. I'm not following Colin's attempt to enter the interaction between Dunya and Golden. I didn't like that and it felt out of place. It was also as non-committal as it can be, because he admitted not having followed it entirely. So he didn't know the origin of their disagreement and thus whole conversation.

Golden narrative that about Dunya trying to control the flow of the game, and not letting other vocal townies lead, rubbed me wrong tbh tbf. I didn't get that from her posts and he might have been doing what he accused her of.

What about Dunya?

Nova agrees that nutella looks scummy

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I think nutella is bad, here are some reasons why.

1. she came in innocent enough and made an intro post like the rest of us. she did choose gross runny eggs with salmonella, but that's beyond the point. the first opportunity nutella got was to throw shade at me when jay was reacting to my provoking.

dunya is scum.

and I thought you were one of the few who could town-read me accurately. I'm kinda upset. Lizzy too.

oh well. it's not meant to be.

hey we all know what happened in fire emblem. you really can't make that argument anymore

2. nutella has a tendency when scum to observe the thread and when things get lit (esp between 2 civs), she'll chip in. she did this in FE and I was scum with her for whatever duration I played and observed her till end game. it's a strategy and it strangely works, because in the heat of an argument, most people don't pay attention to you, but the quips you make add fuel to the fire. see above. she didn't want me to end the argument and added her fuel by reminding Jay how I flew under his radar in FE. she's basically provoking him into reading me as possible scum without actually saying it. calculated and scheming.

maybe jay and dunya are both scum, who knows?? meta is twisted yo

3. scum nutella also has a tendency to not harp on one person and have no definite reads on them. civ nutella is organically paranoid, with a healthy dose of tinfoil. scum nutella tries to find posts that wouldn't be deemed scummy if she looks into them and also scum reads them. she doesn't build cases of her own accord on someone with no suspicion. she would love to see a high poster like me, Jay or Sloonei or Golden (if he's not on her team), to get lynched early on. see above. she also adds little quips like "yo" "ayy" and similar when she is scum and trying to downplay something.

Hmm after some thinking/thread development I'm more inclined to think dunya is town and JJJ less so. Still subject to change though.

4. fake. she didn't think about shit. how did dunya come off as town and jay looked less town than me? it's all mumble mumble words. she probably decided N1 to kill me if I'm not lynched so what better way to do that when she town reads me.

5. she over uses the smiley when she's scum. FE was fulllllll of that shit. I can't unsee it. I'm looking straight into a scum nutella's eyes.

6. I realize that outlining these things will probably make it harder for me to catch a scum nutella in the future, but that's aight.

Hmm after some thinking/thread development I'm more inclined to think dunya is town and JJJ less so. Still subject to change though.

hahaha. and something else that's funny, cos you only have 10 posts yet, but you also did another little scumtell here within those 10 posts that you were guilty of in The Search for Quin and FE. you're a rotten egg.

sorry what? whatever you're seeing, I'm not scum

7. a little while later nutella calls me scummy. she town read me before, she is apologizing to me here, and a little while later, she is seeing scum dunya which she only saw for 1 phase in FE. she also used the shrug emoji, to appear totally clueless, but it's as fake as her little "hmmmm i think dunya is town and jay isn't" from before.

I am entertaining dunya and Golden as being on opposing mafia teams.

I believe Golden is probably town. He is confident enough that his role only makes sense as town that it probably is, even though it was confirmed randomized -- since it came up town he can't imagine it as a scum role. He could be faking but that's not the Golden we know, you know?

8. JaggedJimmyJay is supposed to be a less of a town read for nutella than me at this point, yet she engages him just fine about Golden. She doesn't mention me at all. she wants to be in Golden's good shoes. another scum tell for nutella is that she tries to buddy by using TMI. she knows Golden isn't on her mafia team (hey, he could still be on the second one, I ain't clearing Golden that easily), so she tells him exactly when she thinks he'd like to hear. Golden is being reasonable, she's parroting what was already said. and if Golden thinks I project emotion and try to manipulate him, how about that ending there "he could be faking it, but that's not the Golden we know, you know?" ---- I almost shed a tear.

A tendency I noticed in dunya's play both in Fire Emblem and Ancient Greece was to speak in absolute terms how a game is constructed (whether its roles or its mechanics) beyond the knowledge a civilian can have or the confidence a civilian should have. Indeed, she was critical of others who considered theories beyond the obvious truth she promoted -- one born of her unique knowledge given her mafia alignments.

Her early stature in this game given Golden's notion of a character submission inspiring a more probable civilian alignment is a suitable parallel. I actually agree with her logic in base terms -- a Mafia game would be in its most proper form, randomized entirely. Mac himself suggested though that this game may be bastardized or otherwise not entirely balanced. There ought to be some room to consider the less obvious or logical possibilities.

dunya's tone overall sounds very much like her mafia game so far.

9. fake as shit. nutella is being as wiffly waffly as she was in FE, she's not provided one solid reason why I'm bad except piggyback on Golden and JJJ. and coupled with everything else up to this point, I'm gonna bet my right and left paws that she is definitely one rotten egg.

10. I made my nutella case. My vote will stay on her. I'll revisit my other scum reads but I'd love people to weigh in on nutella too.

I like this case a lot. But I have a few questions,

2. What made you think that she was provoking him to read you as scum? He already stated that he read you as such, and she was quoting you and not him, with something that is true (you flowing under the radar as scum).

8. How come JJJ should be less of a Town read to her than you? I'm not following. And even if that were the case, what's the problem with her engaging him about other players?

Nova spews water back in motel room's face about his read of colonialbob being "quiet scum"

Im with the missus now, gonna be social. Comradebob is my pick for quiet scum thus far.

What about him? You've been quiet yourself.

Nova was a strong advocate for lynching 3 players:

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people arguing statistics and how likely it is we'll vote for scum if we lynch 3 people...how about how likely it is the randomizer will put at least 1 or 2 scum in the pool of 8 for us. we are 30 players, we need some focus in our discussions and need to be talking about people who have no pressure on them too. I am sticking with option 2.

This is such a weak argument. The probability of the first one is much higher. And it's not only about the probability of lynching scum or not. With 3 lynches, you get 2 additional flips in one phase. That is great.

What do you mean by " we need to be talking about people who have no pressure on them too"? Aren't you capable of doing that while having the possibility of lynching 3 of them?

> Focus in our discussions

What does this even mean? This is bullshit. Yes, we are 30 players but just because we have 8 players on the lynch platform, doesn't mean we should spend the time talking only about them. That is a waste of a phase.

Encouraged dunya to pursue her baddie list with the three lynch option:

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there isn't any very low posters tbh except Zeph and sprityo maybe. everyone's been contributing which is really nice to see. The mod already said inactives will be modkilled, so why waste our time on them? Kenway didn't show up and was promptly replaced by Sloonei.

Why do you think that with the option #6 the lynches are going to be directed at inactives? Don't do already feel good about your baddie list, so why not vote for #6 and push a lynch on 3 amongst those?

which at the time included:

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here's my new list of TOWN, MEH, and SCUM

TOWN:
dunya
Epignosis
Golden
juliets
Kenway / Sloonei (i called it)
Kites
Kylemii
lapluie
Marmot
motel room
Scotty
sig
Spacedaisy
speedchuck
Turnip Head
Wolbre04

MEH
colonialbob - i lingered, between town and meh
insertnamehere - i lingered, between scum and meh.
Jackofhearts2005 - i lingered, between town and meh, but what has Jack even done?
JaggedJimmyJay - i'm lingering. the frustrated tone gives me a civ lean, but his tunelling of me meh
Long Con - i lingered, between scum and meh. don't like his sudden belief in the scumslip theory as an excuse to vote me without trying.
Quin - i lingered, between scum and meh
sprityo - i lingered, between town and meh
Zephyrus - i lingered, between meh and meh, come on dude.

SCUM
ColinIsCool
Dragon D. Luffy
Elohcin
Lilefer
Lunalee
novaselinenever
nutella

I did not pause at all on anyone in my scum and town piles. I feel good about this.

After a final post pushing for the 3-lynch option

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This is such a weak argument. The probability of the first one is much higher. And it's not only about the probability of lynching scum or not. With 3 lynches, you get 2 additional flips in one phase. That is great.

no it's not. it's the same reason why a 24/24 game favors mafia imo.

the greatest power town has is time. ya'll might be bored and thinking you want this game over already, but people become easier to read as the game goes on. having 3 independent lynches brings us a lot closer and a lot more info than 3 lynches at the same time on day 2.

What do you mean by " we need to be talking about people who have no pressure on them too"? Aren't you capable of doing that while having the possibility of lynching 3 of them?

yes, but when everyone is a lynching option, focus is scattered between 30 possibilities.

> Focus in our discussions

What does this even mean? This is bullshit. Yes, we are 30 players but just because we have 8 players on the lynch platform, doesn't mean we should spend the time talking only about them. That is a waste of a phase.

I didn't say we should "only talk about them" -- you're "projecting" and according to my trusty friends, that's a scumtell.

Well this game isn't a 24/24 one. Time is great, a lynch is better.

Who's "projecting" now? I'm not bored and I don't want this game over already. I can't speak for the other who voted #6 but I don't think boredom is a reason.

Those 3 independent lynches comes with 3 night phases that are baddies greatest power just like the lynch is Town's. What's so bad about gathering the equivalent of that in one phase and giving them only 1 night phase?

What is so bad about a scattered focus? You've been repeating it without explaining why it's bad. What if the people in your bad list aren't option for the lynch? What then?

If there are 30 possibilities, can't you just focus on the person you already suspect?

You did imply it. You're using it as a justification of why one option is better than another. That is the same thing.

Nova's evil reign comes to a quick end after complimenting dunya on her rug.

Nice rug.

Interactions

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Scotty voted Nova on day 1 until Nova came in and started posting

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[VOTE: nova] aubergine

are you lynching a no-poster today?

That’s the plan.

That’s always the plan.

If he shows up, then I look at most suspicious. But I’m shit at reading people day 1 anyway soooo

What's up? I'm here

Coolbeans

You read any of the things?

Dunya suspected nova as scum

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both, I always feel like a rainbow helps organize my priorities which in turn helps me clarify my reads on people for others.

were there any reads in particular that the rainbow excercize helped clarify for you

yeah, TH i had him down as a civ lean, but when i came to doing the rainbow i can't say i had any compelling reasons to civ read him...so it was just more of a i dont have any reason to scum read him and he makes me laugh and is cool so if he's scum, he kinda deserves to win?

it also made me realize i don't feel so good about Lunalee. I've only played a couple games with her (image mafia and ancient greece), but something feels out of place in her posts here.

and of course, moving nova and Colin both to scum piles was surprising for me, but it's where i felt they deserved to be.

Golden called Nova bad for voting for option 6

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Nova is bad.

Let’s see who the next person is to jump on option 6 with a good-seeming argument that is actually bad.

I’m telling you guys, option 6 is a honey trap.

sig also suspected Nova in his monstrous post here:

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This is a prewritten message recorded during the unfortunate time period where I should’ve been engaging in a hot orgy, but instead was just kinda hanging out chained to a wall and having my plane delayed by many many many hours. (3ish to be exact) HOWEVER, I will use this time to record some thoughts I’ve had throughout the phase.
1. I believe DDL, especially since I’m very confident I’ll be returning soon to the land of the living, I’m very much against lynching him at all and can confirm 100% that he had nothing to do with my abduction. Also screw you boyfriend (figuratively not literally, bet I’ll be tired from my time in the sex cave) letting me get kidnapped gotta say can’t see this relationship lasting long.
I do see the game theory logic that Jack presented however, I think Jack was also using this game theory to stir up paranoia on DDL which is a bad look for him.
2. I’ve really disliked Nutella’s tone this phase it rubs me all the wrong ways. I’d be shocked if she was civ.
3. Golden is creeping me out.
4. But, not as much as goats, goats are creepy man. Its like they know I love lamb and plan to rise up and kill me
5. LC is being too nice
6. But, not as nice as like Bill Cosby so I think we’re safe for now ( My mind is still in the sex dungeon :P )
7. Dunya is gone, anybody make progress on saving her if she needs to be saved or what?
8. Why has nobody questioned DDL about Juliets? She’s slipped through the cracks for sure. Can he bring her back or was I the only option and why.
9. @Daisy were you punished for breaking a rule or was your time out an ability?
10. Lilifer/Lochlan has been very inactive this I dislike, I also disagree that he’d post more with a cooler role, while he’d most likely post a bit more we wouldn’t see a massive movement.
11. What happened to Scotty? He was looking great than dropped off the map
12. Dogs are pretty crummy personally but I do find cats amazing
13. Sloonie should be getting some pressure votes until he starts giving more content, RP is fun and all but it doesn’t win mafia games.
14. Sig is amazing and super tired, so ignore spelling/grammar errors.
15. Elo is also rubbing me the wrong way, I could see her being mafia.
16. Yes I’m adding extra shit just to see if y’all are bothering to read it if you are than howdy what’s up how ya doing yadyadyad.
17. Bren’s posting a lot for being dead I suggest we ignore him in case it triggers some sorta role thing.
18. I literally have no real civ reads atm. I confident DDL is being honest therefore I’d rather not lynch him, Epi is obvs a civ, and I don’t want to lynch Daisy. Her frustration seemed to genuine. I won’t be lynching Lap or Luna both are playing within civ meta.
19. Nova has been flying under the radar I suggest a vig hit seeing how good they are at coasting to end game as mafia.
20. Vig Hit a new and improved item take one shot and your shooting like a vig! Saving town from evils both large and small. WARNING: may cause the death of all allies, hair loss, total disgrace and exile from the forum, and a mafia victory. 70% of people who have used Vig Hit have reported feeling like morons after killing an important civ role and giving the game to the mafia. Try today for a limited time only. Vig hit a killer you can trust.
21. Where in the world is Motel and Kites? Neither have really contributed much that I can remember
22. Someone mentioned Kyle not joking as much? I think this is NAI some games I joke more others I joke less ect.
23. INH and Zeph has very few posts don’t like this at all
24. Yes I’m very bored in case you couldn’t tell
25. TH looks good, but I don’t remember his scum/civ meta. He wants me to frolic though so he can stay alive ( Unless that was another game than lets lynch the bastard)
26. Haven’t read any of Bobs posts and don’t plan to I’ll put him as a light civ read for the effort he’s putting forth
27. Colins is looking good nice activity
28. Cats are amazing
29. Juliets and I were abducted by different people, with I’d assume different agendas. I believe her abduction might be a more basic silenced/jailkept type thing while mine isn’t.
30. Any medics or protector roles should make DDL a priority as long as he can return vanished players he’s needed.
31. I doubt Zeph is mafia I think he was just guessing re Lochlan.
32. Mars bars are amazing for more information log onto discord RIGHT NOW (7:54 Am UTC 0) to learn more or just come and chat since I’m bored this is a limited time offer and won’t last long so make good use of its.


Very disappointed with thhe fact we got stuck with this poll btw, I much preferred the 3 lynches. And I REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALY like Luna calling out Golden on his post. Even if he did make the poll that doesn’t mean he’s a civ at all it could be a mafia power.

That’s all I’ve got atm, I basically spun my wheels and did nothing of major value this phase, so oh well, if anyone wants my input let me know preferable through a mention and I’ll get back to ya. I do plan to jump on and post this as soon as I can, but It’ll be 12:30 am I believe when the day ends so I highly doubt this post will be up until noon. (I’ve got no clue when Day ends ignore this) God speed good townies, screw you mafia, and Indies keep being the selfish bastards that you are.


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33. Kites is talking to a girl and girls are gross ergo Kites is gross.
34. Disagree with Dunya’s “Girls before mafia” we’re all bros here and following the bro code its mafiabeforehoes :P
35. Hate Eloh’s refusal to contribute, if someone could give me some insight into whether this is a more civ thing or not that would be great, but atm this seems like a way for mafia to avoid breaking a tie/getting looked at.
36. Love scotty thoughts on current lynches
37. I see Juliet’s reading the thread, howdy Juliet’s! What are your current thoughts.
38. I see where Nutella is coming from with the Zeph thing, I don’t necessarily think she’s right, but it does make her look more civvie in my eyes.
39. Luna’s looking good, I agree with her on Jack’s post. I also dislike his reactions on DDL, which I already mentioned. I could see him being one the abductors, I’d suggest we knock out Jack.
40. So Nutella posts are coming across and a combination of cocky and aggressive, but she also seems like she’s trying really hard to be helpful by suggesting things to Mac and playing a consoling role in game. So like she’s trying to be helpful, but it’s so over the top that I feel like she isn’t serious about it?
41. I’ve changed my mind on Eloh she seems more civ minded.


P.S. I wasn’t tecruited by a cult or mafia last night, try harder cult/mafia. My loose streak is directly tied to me being a civ I need an epic win.

Last thoughts. I said something about Golden being weird earlier his response was to turn it into a joke about him lynching me last game. I didn’t think that was odd until right now, but I believe it could’ve been an attempt to disvalue my gut read.

And by "Civ" results, I mean that it's all people who suspected Nova, but no results on possible teammates. Clearly, Scotty would have looked fine even though he was bad, because he was on the opposite team. Golden and dunya were Civ, and sig... I had to look back because I forgot he was playing. He's been vanished for most of the game, so who knows?

I was just doing a short exercise where I search nova's posts for Luna mentions, and vice-versa. No Luna mentions by nova, and this is it from Luna. I see nothing glaringly teammate-ish going on here, just a couple of possible suspect points, and nothing that clears Luna.

[Zephyrus]

I’m going to get tunneled to death soon aren’t I

Would it disappoint you if I still thought you were scum and would very much like this to happen?

[ColinIsCool]

I’m going to get tunneled to death soon aren’t I

Would it disappoint you if I still thought you were scum and would very much like this to happen?

No, I anticipated that.

[Long Con]

Zephyrus, can you point me toward the section of your ISO that is the most convincing Civilian stuff?

[Lunalee]

So I want to investigate Lapluie today. I remember she was so close to being mod-killed for inactivity on night 2, and then popped into the thread just in time to survive. It would make sense that she's scum, and her teammates contacted her before she could be mod-killed.

no sweetie, the host himself spared my life! I have receipts

Oh? I didn't know Mac messaged everyone he was about to mod-kill.