juliets wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:03 am
Good morning everyone, we play at last! sabie12 so glad to have you back with us. And so glad to have you guys I've played mafia with for the most years - Tranq, S~V~S, Lorab and Sorsha. Hope I didn't miss anyone.
I also have no idea what the poll means so I'm going to wait to vote in it until there is some more discussion around it. Also, I will be at work today from 8:30 until this afternoon without access to the thread so I'm sure I'll come home to an explosion! Ok, so later.
The hardest part of trying to construct a case against juliets is that she's the human embodiment of warmth and kindness. Lose all emotional affect.
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:22 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:39 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:21 pm
These poll options seem quite meaningless.
Are people voting randomly or what?
The Tribunal of Judgment is from A World Apart, it was three civvies with BTSC plus a lynch switch and pardon. Seems pro-town imo
Wait a minute, I remember a game where I was part of a 3 civ group with BTSC that was a LC/BR game - was that World Apart? I can't remember mafia games years after I've played them at all. Anyway, I agree this sounds like a pro-town option so that's where I'm voting.
Similar to sig, this post has a "How do you do, fellow town?" vibe. She makes a deliberate point to frame her chosen option as pro-town before casting the vote. I'm skeptical.
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:38 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:18 am
Good news! Votes are indeed changeable, and I put mine on Tranq. Aubergine.
Sloonei, sorry if I missed your reasoning but what did you see about Tranq that made you put a vote on him?
Her first game-relevant action is to ask me about my Tranq vote. I don't know what she did with this question.
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:50 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:25 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 am
Hmm good, we've started actually playing.
Epi, you still feeling DDL?
SVS could be obliquely defending sabie or poking Sloonei. Not a big fan of sabie's response.
Jackofhearts2005 want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.
Update: I no longer want to trust team you.
Looks like a lot of people busy this weekend... including me (as I will be away most of today).
[VOTE:
ColinIsCool] aubergine
So bob, you mention Epi's DDL suspicion and say you are not a fan of sable's responses but then vote Colin. Could you share why you voted him?
Similar question for cbob. In both cases her response was simply to say "thanks." You're welcome.
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:24 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:00 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:37 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:21 pm
These poll options seem quite meaningless.
Are people voting randomly or what?
As someone who has played several LC/BR games I don't know if I believe that you believe that anything in the game is meaningless.
This is why I voted for Tranq.
Ah, ok thanks Sloonei.
Do you have an opinion on this?
After thinking about it, I don't understand why Tranq said that after having played Long Rock games in the past, so maybe I should just ask him: @Tranq what made you say this after having played their games in the past where the polls - especially the first poll - were meaningful?
Also though, I'm less inclined to vote on day 1 one of the people who has been gone for years from our site. I'm not saying I won't vote for one but the evidence would have to be strong.
lots of linki which I will read after posting
Past-Sloonei was on the ball, though, and didn't let her off the hook that easy. She responded by essentially parroting the concern and then asking Tranq to explain his post, but then expressed hesitation about voting for players in Tranq's situation. In other words, she doesn't do much.
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:14 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:58 pm
I'm glad you asked, juliets.
Note i said poll options, not polls. LC/BR polls are always important.
A World Reborn's Day 0 poll options were literally meaningless. Players had to choose between Prog and other music genres. Poll options had nothing to do with the lore of the game. The outcome of the poll, however, did.
I did a quick search on these poll options and didn't find anything meaningful, and made my post.
huh, you're right. I went back and looked at the game and indeed the poll options were just music genres but the poll outcome was those that those who voted one of the options got taken off the day 1 poll. So, I see what you mean about the difference between options and polls so this explanation rings true to me. Thanks for explaining.
Accepts Tranq's response without criticism.
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:14 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:11 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:05 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:59 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:43 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:30 pm
Hey SVS, I don't know if I've played with you before, but I've seen you around and sort of know about you. My valid suspicion of Colin shows that day one can contain valid suspicions. Mac doesn't think so, and therefore thinks I "attacked" nutella for no reason over her (in my opinon) completely invalid Jack suspicion. Does that clear things up for you?
Out of curiosity, what do you sort of know about S~V~S?
So um, speedchuck played game of champions with her last year, before I even joined the site, and he ranted to me about her suspecting him.
Yeah he aggressively defended the guy with the blinking neon "Baddie" sign on his head. Good times.
If people who know you better than I that I feel ok about tell me this is your norm, I am open to moving my vote. Plenty of day one weirdness in this thread lol.
But for now I'm good.
I would like to tell you a list of references who can attest to my civ game, but I get mislynched pretty often, because apparently I don't know how to play like a civ.
Luna does seem to get mislynched but I think it's because we don't know how to read her more than it is she doesn't know how to play like a civ. I thought her question to nutella was good, I also wondered if she was voting based on Hogwarts or something she has seen this game.
Vaguely vouches for luna while just-as-vaguely criticizing nutella, but I don't actually see a read on either player in this game right now. Not ideal.
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:45 am
I appreciate Epi's pointing out some oddities in Sloonei's posts because Sloonei is a tough nut to crack for me. He had me completely snowed in a game I played with him earlier this year where he was bad. But I agree with Sloonei's point that he doesn't think this is a sincere case. I think it's a bold move to enhance conversation.
Juliets is mostly just posting to express agreement with things. Is this normal for her?
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:55 am
Something is bothering me about G-Man but I can't put my finger on it. I was not a fan of his post calling DH short sighted and dismissive. Maybe it's just the tone which isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Anyway, I agree with DDL, I'd like to see more from G-Man today.
This is one of my Red Flag statements. I always perk up when I see someone thrust such a vague suspicion on a person. Qualify that junk! Otherwise it can just be read as phony bandwagoning. Not a good look for juliets.
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:39 am
Ok, I found this quote from Mac:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:53 pm
Oh I just read some Jack posts that pinged me. There's no actual case there.
Mac, would you share what posts pinged you?
Puts her attention on the Jack case, but... I don't see her actually doing much here.
There's a lot of the same for a while, then this:
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:32 pm
I have to leave for awhile, I was hoping sig would post his walk-through before I had to go. For now, I'm going to vote for Wilgy.
@DrWilgy if you come online would please explain your vote for c-bob and tell us a little bit about your reads or suspicions or anything game related except mechanics?
I will be back after I have done my physical therapy. I will not, btw, be here for EOD. Way past my bedtime.
Yuck. Taken with the rest of Juliets' ISO, this vote is supremely weak. I can't identify a single read juliets has made this game, and her vote is on the established lazy low-poster option. Not good.
And then there's a couple more posts where she reacts to other people saying things without taking a stance. I have a definitive beef here. Juliets has spent most of the day agreeing with people and asking straightforward questions. I do not see a single read on a player anywhere in these posts, and I see no evidence that she's actively working with the information gained from any of the questions she's asked. I could get behind a juliets case.
@juliets, what are your reads on nutella and luna?