The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:Fuck. I don'tknow what to say. I am going o just shut up

Linki, the GOC was worse, actually.

I don't know about that. I'm about to hang myself.

Good job cops, you deserve your impending win.

I am going to join SVS and vote for Scotty. I trust her opinion. Besides, he was my other choice for today.

Epignosis. I'll read the thread when my husband is not talking at me and I can concentrate.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Question for those who know her best:

How likely is S~V~S, as a civilian, to role hint?

Not role hint but if she has civ BTSC and you are talking bad about her friends she is "Captain Obvious" or as she said all "Mama Bear"

Ummm... unless the seemer has indeed been lynched I am going to have to rethink my TH theory... I thought he might be a stool pigeon. I just realized both of those have been revealed as lynched.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
sig wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
sig wrote:
You better not be bad, I swear to jeebus.

sig wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Well you're on your own tomorrow siggy boy. I don't know where to go from here.
oh no.
Turnip Head and sig do not have BTSC.

I agree, I don't think they have civ BTSC. I also don't think TH is the Don. I have him down as something else.

If I had to name the remaining four cops I would go with:

Epig (cause he's still alive)
Scotty (cause he's still alive)

Well that's two. I am really lost this game. If TH is not a cop then Sig is not a cop. The role I think he is makes a lot of sense in the survival and his blind faith in Sig. Also that Warden rainbow list looks like something contrived to mislead. I will likely vote Epig tomorrow.

S~V~S wrote:She has 3 kids and 2 home businesses and a busy life. She did not have time. 509378s answers were pretty good and I endorse them

I love you so much SVS.

For Quin, I didn't see them, haven't seen them yet. I came in to make sure I voted on time before I started dinner. I just finished dinner and am just checking in before I help my 6 year old finish his crazy hat for crazy hat day. After he is showered and the two little ones are in bed hopefully I'll make it back and look it up. As I already said it's been a busy long weekend.

I voted Boomslang. Long weekend was long and full of family fun. I'll get back into it come tomorrow. Boomslang needs to go today. I don't think we need to spread votes out on this.

Quin wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Quin wrote:I'm still alive because of my exuding charisma, I think.
I'd like to pick door number 3 please, Monty.
Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Why am I still alive? I rarely last this long.
Don't ask, but answer. Why are you still alive?
I'm not completely trusted by everyone yet.

More importantly, why is SVS still alive? I think she is on most everyone's civ list, and I don't think she is a don.
SVS often lasts a long time into games. People don't kill her.
Why are you still alive, Black Rock?

Because they think they get me lynched.

Why are you still alive?

Never mind, don't bother answering that. It's because you're bad.

Scotty wrote:
Quin wrote:I'm still alive because of my exuding charisma, I think.
I'd like to pick door number 3 please, Monty.
Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Why am I still alive? I rarely last this long.
Don't ask, but answer. Why are you still alive?
I'm not completely trusted by everyone yet.

More importantly, why is SVS still alive? I think she is on most everyone's civ list, and I don't think she is a don.

SVS often lasts a long time into games. People don't kill her.

Elohcin wrote:Listen y'all. I see I am in the red on many of your lists. I'm not very good at keeping up in big games. In fact, if you are not already aware, I vowed not to play them anymore. However, as a favor to MP, because he is an awesome guy, I am here. I am here to give be another vote for the civs. So, please, tell me who I can vote for and I will. I am not a bad guy. I'm here to help.

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, it's not easy being you in this game right now. It'll take some time to get your footing.

I am heading to work so try to avoid last minute craziness guys.

That would be a vote for Turnip Head

Well I've suspected TH all game so I'm going to vote for him.

Black Rock wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm still here, just getting ready to board a plane.

I think the ika wagon is loaded with cops.
I think there is three for sure.
Exactly three?

If I meant exactly three I would say there are three.... not for sure.
oh wait, I was speaking Cheryl here. For sure means at least. If that wasn't clear. I think you thought I meant for sure = exactly.

Oh shit. I don't think I've ever used THAT name around here.

Just caught up on the last couple of pages. Not fun to read.

I know it's nice to think Ika is the seemer, could be. We can't know for sure. At this point I don't think he was but I could be wrong. I don't think it's worth the argument.

Black Rock wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm still here, just getting ready to board a plane.

I think the ika wagon is loaded with cops.
I think there is three for sure.
Exactly three?

If I meant exactly three I would say there are three.... not for sure.

oh wait, I was speaking Cheryl here. For sure means at least. If that wasn't clear. I think you thought I meant for sure = exactly.

Sloonei wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm still here, just getting ready to board a plane.

I think the ika wagon is loaded with cops.
I think there is three for sure.
Exactly three?

If I meant exactly three I would say there are three.... not for sure.

So SVS, looking at that where do you stand on TH?

He geared up the LC lynch train.

That's fair, his most recent post was not civ like at all.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:sig = bad
chaindeath = bad
Boomslang = bad
Black Rock = bad

No

I was thinking TH, Quin, and Boom

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm still here, just getting ready to board a plane.

I think the ika wagon is loaded with cops.

I think there is three for sure.

Well crap.

Epignosis wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just ate.
What did you eat?
I made pizza with Highland brewery's Gaelic Ale as a base for the crust. We had onions, sweet peppers, tomato sauce and mozzarella cheese on top.
I keep forgetting to tell you that your Thomas host banner makes playing Mafia before my three year olds bed time near impossible. He always makes me stop so he can examine it for 10 minutes repeating "Thomas!" 151 times before I can scroll. Today he saw the bloody forum and made me find a post by you so he can see the banner. Thomas is God in our house.
That's Eloh's host banner! She's better at that than I am.

Well it's your posts he sees it in all the time.

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just ate.
What did you eat?
I made pizza with Highland brewery's Gaelic Ale as a base for the crust. We had onions, sweet peppers, tomato sauce and mozzarella cheese on top.

I keep forgetting to tell you that your Thomas host banner makes playing Mafia before my three year olds bed time near impossible. He always makes me stop so he can examine it for 10 minutes repeating "Thomas!" 151 times before I can scroll. Today he saw the bloody forum and made me find a post by you so he can see the banner. Thomas is God in our house.

He's in love. You sacrifice yourself for love, right?
I mean I wouldn't, I would hang LC before I'd "let" him win.

chaindeath wrote:He has switched his vote to Ika to kill the tie. He doesn't understand how he's bad but if the town wishes it this civ will turn himself in and let the cops roll through another night phase.

Don't make me regret my vote.

Silverwolf wrote:BTW-I feel like this entire day phase has been town turning against me and scum sitting back and laughing.

Town is gonna lose this game and there is nothing I can do to prevent it. That frustrates the shit out of me. And to be criticized for my play on top of it is just enough for me.

I'm tired of it. I'm seriously done now.

I'm willing to listen to you about Ika and will switch my vote to Ika. I understand where Epig is coming from, but I don't think Ika would kill Silverwolf, and if she's right then that would explain why they are both still alive. Just a feeling I get with the dynamics I have seen in this game.

Silverwolf is right. We are going to lose this game if we don't start lynching more cops.

Turnip Head wrote:I've only skimmed the last few pages, hopefully I'll have time to read through thoroughly. I see Boomslang got like 7 GTH mafia reads and only has one vote, sup with that? Out of the people with votes I'm leaning towards going with ika. I tend to take SO's reads on each other pretty seriously; Epi/Elo, BR/LC, Zombarella/Snowman come to mind immediately ... the one hiccup here is something that Epi mentioned, ika would have had to use extra votes on a teammate Day 2 if he's bad. And maybe that's what he did, the civ cred could be inifinite, but it gives me pause. I don't know how to read him but he definitely appealed emotionally to Silverwolf... not sure if that's a baddie trait or a civ one in this instance but I'm leaning towards thinking it's shady.

Soneji is getting more involved. There was a chaindeath post that made me feel better about him. I feel better about Epi than I have all game.

Still not sure where I stand on BR. I agree with whoever mentioned that she did a quick turnaround on me after Day 2, only to just as quickly revert back to her baddie read on me. She mentioned that this was due to a post of mine that she interpreted as a joke, so idk... I do feel like she's genuinely trying to read my alignment, but I'd like her to explain how she so quickly changed her mind on me due to Day 2, and why that read didn't hold simply because of that one post she quoted.

Well I haven't even skimmed things. Unless I feel I need to I am moving forward from here.

I did do a moment of turnaround with you because of how that lynch went. Your posts still bugged me so I couldn't drop it. I have since moved forward, it doesn't mean I'm done with you I'm just more suspicious of Quin at this point and that's where I'm dropping my vote. I'm surprised you're not sure of me, you should be. You know me. I know you do. You either haven't been paying attention or you are bad. That's my opinion. I'm an easy lynch, I always am. I feel like this post is laying ground work if the thread starts leaning that way. If you are good, look at my opinions. There aren't many, but they are sincere.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Black Rock said nothing about Fuzz before he was lynched, and didn't appear to be present as the CFD developed (she left just before it started to rev up). Her earlier focus seemed to be more on Turnip Head and to a lesser degree Epignosis. I do like the way she responded to the results of the CFD/Fuzz flip though, at least in that her perspectives align well with my own other than the same sig read I've disagreed with nearly everyone else on. I don't get overwhelmingly good vibes in the absence of interactions with the dead mafioso, but I wouldn't call her a suspect either. Leaning slightly townward.

I also don't remember much talk about him before I left. He wasn't a player I was thinking about at all. Because of my work schedule I haven't been able to be here near the end of the lynches. Otherwise I would have been here fighting for LC when he got lynched.

So the lynch ends today? I could have sworn it ended yesterday. I came here to see the result. I am still very far behind. I work in a bar, yesterday was St Pattys day and I worked lunch and dinner. I am exhausted. I'll see what I can do but over 40 pages doesn't seem appealing right now.

This thread has gotten crazy and I am now drowning in it. I'm working from noon till whenever they don't need me today. A girl got fired the other day and I have been covering her shifts. So I am going to vote for Quin. I still think Quins a good vote, even though I haven't read the past 25 freaking pages.

sig wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Checking Nerolunar's interactions with Fuzz:

Spoiler: show
Nerolunar wrote:I see RadicalFuzz is online. What are your suspects and general thoughts on what happened at EoD and from there on?
I doubt Fuzz was the only person Nero happened to see online, so it could be noteworthy that he felt the need to prod him like this. It was his only such prod.

This was Nero's only mention of Fuzz, and Fuzz never mentioned Nero in any non-OT text. It appears he voted early for ika on the day of their tally duel and the vote stayed there for the long haul. The total absence of interactivity, combined with an uninspiring vote and the specificity of the above prod choice make me willing to call Nerolunar a suspect. I could see him as a team mate of Fuzz.
What do you make of his interaction with LC especially considering that LC flipped as a BTSC role. I thought Nero was mafia until I saw his hard early defense of LC, it wouldn't make much sense unless he knew LC was civ. Mainly his interaction with Chaindeath over LC.

Someone pointed out I should come out of my shell. I've been making cases, but have also for the last two phases defending myself. This leaves little room for case building.

Wasn't LC trying to get Nero lynched the same phase?

Turnip Head wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I still am a pro TH lynch. The one thing that has not changed my mind, is he has not said anything that he regularly says to me when he is a civ.
I'm ignoring you because, at the moment, I'm not sure I believe that you actually suspect me. And if you really do then fine. I'm civ and eventually you'll see that or you won't, I'm not sweating it.

That's fine TH, you trying to ignore it is what makes me suspect you more. As a civ, when I suspect you, you are more likely to tell me I'm wrong, you are civ and then you go ahead and try to get me lynched. I see none of that here. In fact I do believe, hold on I'll find it...
Well that strategy doesn't always work out. I am trying not to make a rash decision about you.

Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Maybe lol. You know me so well.
I got this joke post. This was in response to me asking if he was worried I liked him too much. I almost dropped my suspicion until this post. This post bugs me, a lot.

I have to admit, I have questioned my suspicion of you this game. I did today. That's why I haven't pushed that hard, I just can't make it go away. Every time you make a decision, I think it's the wrong decision. That bull shit with the LC lynch reminded me of a more dastardly Turnip Head. I also feel like you usually have a better gut read on players, better than I ever can and you are (no offense because I love and respect you) suck this game. I know that can happen but with everything else it doesn't feel right. Then you put me in the middle of your rainbow list. Well close the book! Turnip head has gotten to day 4 without pegging me. If you are indeed civ, like you say, then why can't I see it?
Yeah, I know I suck this game. It happens. I don't have a fucking clue what's going on atm. But I don't think all my gut reads are wrong. I still think sig is civ, I think Quin is civ, those are unpopular opinions but it's what I think. You probably can't see that I'm civ because I've been wrong about a few things. If I could change that, I would. I hope I do.

My post above that you quoted was not a joke post. I was questioning you because, after the Fuzz lynch, you immediately said it changed your mind on me, and I thought you were giving me too much credit there. So I started pressing. And then you called me on the exact reason for why I was pressing you. And then you started suspecting me again :P

I know, right? Like I said, I have questioned myself a lot. You just made me do it again. My paranoia is up this game. Maybe I'm the nagging voice following you around that will make you do better.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Scotty wrote:What do we think would be an ideal role the undercover cop would choose? I mean, it wouldn't be the traitor, surely?
Someone with BTSC. Maybe a lover.
Why? The BTSC partner would point the possibility out immediately.

Weren't you one of the people who played around with the idea LC might be a seemer?

Scotty wrote:I feel good about this lynch. I'm feeling a Horn Bet and letting it ride, pit boss!

I think I should pay attention to you more this game. Your name has been brought up enough and I don't remember seeing super civ Scotty either.

Golden wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Golden wrote:@silverwolf - that post is insanification, and its a punishment for self-voting. Those familiar with Long Con's insanifier know what it looks like you'll get used to it around here soon enough lol.
Wait, we have an insanifier?
Yes, but I really think LC should update it... it always brings up players from long ago, and I wish it would bring up some more modern players too!!

He says he's going to (for months now) he just hasn't gotten around to it.

Turnip Head wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I still am a pro TH lynch. The one thing that has not changed my mind, is he has not said anything that he regularly says to me when he is a civ.
I'm ignoring you because, at the moment, I'm not sure I believe that you actually suspect me. And if you really do then fine. I'm civ and eventually you'll see that or you won't, I'm not sweating it.

That's fine TH, you trying to ignore it is what makes me suspect you more. As a civ, when I suspect you, you are more likely to tell me I'm wrong, you are civ and then you go ahead and try to get me lynched. I see none of that here. In fact I do believe, hold on I'll find it...

Turnip Head wrote:Maybe lol. You know me so well.

I got this joke post. This was in response to me asking if he was worried I liked him too much. I almost dropped my suspicion until this post. This post bugs me, a lot.

I have to admit, I have questioned my suspicion of you this game. I did today. That's why I haven't pushed that hard, I just can't make it go away. Every time you make a decision, I think it's the wrong decision. That bull shit with the LC lynch reminded me of a more dastardly Turnip Head. I also feel like you usually have a better gut read on players, better than I ever can and you are (no offense because I love and respect you) suck this game. I know that can happen but with everything else it doesn't feel right. Then you put me in the middle of your rainbow list. Well close the book! Turnip head has gotten to day 4 without pegging me.

If you are indeed civ, like you say, then why can't I see it?

Well fuck guys. I can never be here for this last minute shenanigans. The poll end time doesn't work with my schedule. I'm not caught up, just got home and looked for the host post. RIP Gleam.

I'm changing my vote to Quin. Somehow Quin has started looking worse than Sig.

I still am a pro TH lynch. The one thing that has not changed my mind, is he has not said anything that he regularly says to me when he is a civ.

Golden wrote:@BR, btw, as one of the few people in this game who has known me a long time, would you be able to say what you think of me this game?

I believe you are a civvie. You are definitely playing your civ game.

I'm switching my vote to Sig, spread out votes aren't helping us this game.

I don't really understand the Llama suspicion. He seems rather neutral this game. Quin, can you tell me why you have Golden in red?

Linki Golden, Zebra is a cop? That's the only thing that makes sense to me right now.

sig wrote:Also Scotty's post about me flipping good is eye raising. It could be an attempt to set up players after I get lynched. Of course I could be the undercover cop and this could all be part of our plan. Just as likely whoever keeps bringing up the undercover cop thing will be an used as an attempt to protect their teammates who I've named as suspicious when I do flip.

ALSO one last thing how do we know LC wasn't the undercover cop? It would be great if he is and your killing the person who was right about him. :P

linki: I thought you were making fun of llama.

LC being undercover cop wouldn't make sense with his role flip. He was crew who had BTSC. Two other someones would know.

I'm voting Turnip Head. Some of you should try it out, see how it feels.

This is what you might call tunneling. I tunnel you TH.

Scotty wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Well BR was right about LC, assuming no undercover cop and no cop BR. Apparently people's abilities to read their significant other in mafia is pretty good.
Do you think he'd claim that role as a cop? Where the hell were his friends?

Can we lynch TH now?
No, it is far too dark.

If I die can you chase him for me?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Well BR was right about LC, assuming no undercover cop and no cop BR. Apparently people's abilities to read their significant other in mafia is pretty good.

Do you think he'd claim that role as a cop? Where the hell were his friends?

Can we lynch TH now?

I am voting for Turnip Head. He is so bad. I think he is going to distract the thread on where they are voting today and try for a pile on LC. He thinks it's an easy target and is likely trying to save a teammate. Don't be fooled by him.

I don't know what to say about Quin. Such some pings and I have nothing solid.

Doesn't it suck when the paranoia takes over?

Where is SVS? Did I miss her ever answering my question about TH?

indiglo wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Scotty wrote:I just did a read of Quin.

He's a cop.

Hey Quin, what is your opinion of sig? Straight up.
I was just thinking the same thing. Some of his posts are pinging me quite a bit.
When (or if) either of you have time to share thoughts on this, please do.

BR, what do you think about going with sig today?

I feel like sig is a good vote, the problem I have with sig is every time I feel this way he's a civ. What do I do with that?

Have you read Quin's posts? I don't know Quins style but I feel he's saying a lot of unnecessary stuff.

I really like a TH lynch, but I'm alone on that one. I have not seen super civvie TH at all this game.

Turnip Head wrote:Long Con is bad y'all

No, but I am getting pretty sure about you TH.

LC is playing a pretty civ game and you should know that.

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